pico Posted September 10, 2012 Share #241 Posted September 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are enough to support Leitax and Stephen Gandy and his Leica to Canon adapters. Gandy does not depend upon Leitax R sales, and Leitax has a diversified market which include Nikon, Canon, Contax, Sony and perhaps others, so your assertion is as insignificant to Leica as it is to Gandy and Leitax. An true R body will never take M lenses. True. If you are talking about an EVIL viewfinder that can take both M and R lenses with the appropriate adapter, that is not a real R solution. [...] Thanks for making my point. There is not enough of a market for an R-only lens body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Hi pico, Take a look here The R solution - more details. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #242 Posted September 10, 2012 ...There is not enough of a market for an R-only lens body. Sad but true i'm afraid. The "R solution" will have an EVF most probably. Just one week to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larcomb Posted September 10, 2012 Share #243 Posted September 10, 2012 Gandy does not depend upon Leitax R sales, and Leitax has a diversified market which include Nikon, Canon, Contax, Sony and perhaps others, so your assertion is as insignificant to Leica as it is to Gandy and Leitax. True. Thanks for making my point. There is not enough of a market for an R-only lens body. I don't agree. Not if they go in with another company and simply put the R lens mount on it. Why not Canon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2012 Share #244 Posted September 10, 2012 Because the do not offer a range of lenses with this hypothetical camera. How many would be sold? A couple of dozen I guess. Especially as that Canon rebadge would be considerably more expensive than a Canon body with an adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2012 Share #245 Posted September 10, 2012 Sad but true i'm afraid. The "R solution" will have an EVF most probably. Just one week to wait. I'm not sure it will come now - I expect an announcement at most. Maybe it will be introduced sometime next year (I hope) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 10, 2012 Share #246 Posted September 10, 2012 I don't agree. Not if they go in with another company and simply put the R lens mount on it. Why not Canon? This subject has been beaten to death and beyond. The search function is your friend (ours too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #247 Posted September 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm not sure it will come now - I expect an announcement at most. Maybe it will be introduced sometime next year (I hope) The R solution will be the M10 i bet so i expect to know more next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2012 Share #248 Posted September 10, 2012 Well, yes. I was thinking more along the lines of a dedicated EVIL camera. If the electronic viewfinder is going to be an Olympus EVF-2 clone I dont think it can replace an R viewfinder. More like an emergency solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larcomb Posted September 10, 2012 Share #249 Posted September 10, 2012 This subject has been beaten to death and beyond. The search function is your friend (ours too). After all, remember the R3? It was basically a minolta body with an R mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 10, 2012 Share #250 Posted September 10, 2012 I don't agree. Not if they go in with another company and simply put the R lens mount on it. Why not Canon? Why would Leica do that? Perhaps for the same reason Canon has not come out with one of their bodies with only an R mount - they won't make a significant profit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #251 Posted September 10, 2012 Well, yes. I was thinking more along the lines of a dedicated EVIL camera. If the electronic viewfinder is going to be an Olympus EVF-2 clone I dont think it can replace an R viewfinder. More like an emergency solution. Or an as-is solution but EVFs will improve and i doubt we will have anything else full frame in a near future but i may be wrong naturally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larcomb Posted September 10, 2012 Share #252 Posted September 10, 2012 Why would Leica do that? Perhaps for the same reason Canon has not come out with one of their bodies with only an R mount - they won't make a significant profit! It would not be a huge modification. In fact, I bet someone could do one as a prototype. The lens meter coupling is the major issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 10, 2012 Share #253 Posted September 10, 2012 It would not be a huge modification. In fact, I bet someone could do one as a prototype. The lens meter coupling is the major issue. What do you not understand in the phrase, "insignificant profit"? And remember that more than engineering and manufacture goes into the expense of a product. There is support, repair, continued interdependent relations/reconciliation, marketing/advertising, and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #254 Posted September 10, 2012 ...The lens meter coupling is the major issue. Let alone auto diaphragm. Failing this, there is no point in asking for a dedicated body. Current DSLRs can do it with passive or AF confirm adapters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larcomb Posted September 10, 2012 Share #255 Posted September 10, 2012 Let alone auto diaphragm. Failing this, there is no point in asking for a dedicated body. Current DSLRs can do it with passive or AF confirm adapters. I dont understand. meter couple and diaphragm coupling is about all you need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 10, 2012 Share #256 Posted September 10, 2012 I dont understand. meter couple and diaphragm coupling is about all you need. Leica will not make enough money for the reasons I gave. I cannot fathom what your impression of a business is. Here is your R-system solution. Actually I do not know if the lens registration distance would work. Not even interested enough to check. Too small a market! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 10, 2012 Share #257 Posted September 10, 2012 I dont understand. meter couple and diaphragm coupling is about all you need. You could always try to make your own, all it takes is a spare EOS camera and some tools and more tools or ask Mr Leitax (David Llado) to make you one but be prepared not to ask for a refund if things go belly up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #258 Posted September 10, 2012 I dont understand. meter couple and diaphragm coupling is about all you need. Can be true for EVILs but not for dSLRs. Auto diaphragm allows you to focus and meter at full aperture whilst the camera will automatically stop down when you press the shutter button. If you can't have that feature, there is no point at asking for a dedicated body since current DSLRs can do stop down metering and focusing (to variable extents) with manual lenses already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larcomb Posted September 10, 2012 Share #259 Posted September 10, 2012 Can be true for EVILs but not for dSLRs. Auto diaphragm allows you to focus and meter at full aperture whilst the camera will automatically stop down when you press the shutter button. If you can't have that feature, there is no point at asking for a dedicated body since current DSLRs can do stop down metering and focusing (to variable extents) with manual lenses already. again, look at r3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2012 Share #260 Posted September 10, 2012 This topic has been beaten to death here, i suggest that you do a bit of search on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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