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Hank Taylor Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share #2 Posted September 10, 2010 Sorry if I offend my follow Leica users.but the facts as I see is as it is, Leica has a problem. I have been a loyal Leica user ever since I was a Marine photographer. I bought my first M3 in Korea in the early 50's. What I'm disappointed about I can't use my R lenses unless I use another brand. Lately I have been using a Canon 5D II but now that Canon has lenses the equal leica such as my new 85mm f/1.2 II, 16-36mm 2.8 II and the 70-200 2.8 II. I sold my 80 summilux and 80-200mm f4 Rom along with the R8. My eyes aren't as sharp as they were 40 years ago that why it help me to have a camera that' auto focus . I'm still keeping my M system especially my M9. No I'm not a Turn Coat, just practical. Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted September 10, 2010 Share #3 Posted September 10, 2010 Any more posts like this and we'll take away your red dot! You probably complained when the screw mount was replaced and you had to buy newer and better lens. You probably complained when it took Leica too long to develop a single lens reflex solution and then kept complaining when they had to take a dreaded J partner to make it work. You must have felt terrible that it took so long to add a relatively simple feature like spot-metering to the mainline M bodies when they'd already done it in the CL. Next you'll expand your complaint that Leica is abandoning it's R customer base and the trust, faith and financial investment it made in an un-sustainable technological race with the superior funding of the two main J companies. You sound like the kind of guy that would have a multi-item list of complaints about the shortcomings of the M9 - what no chrome? no 24mm viewfinder? still has that silly heritage base plate? no crystal screen protector? and I have to wait for delivery? Enjoy your cannon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted September 10, 2010 Share #4 Posted September 10, 2010 Any more posts like this and we'll take away your red dot! You probably complained when the screw mount was replaced and you had to buy newer and better lens. You probably complained when it took Leica too long to develop a single lens reflex solution and then kept complaining when they had to take a dreaded J partner to make it work. You must have felt terrible that it took so long to add a relatively simple feature like spot-metering to the mainline M bodies when they'd already done it in the CL. Next you'll expand your complaint that Leica is abandoning it's R customer base and the trust, faith and financial investment it made in an un-sustainable technological race with the superior funding of the two main J companies. You sound like the kind of guy that would have a multi-item list of complaints about the shortcomings of the M9 - what no chrome? no 24mm viewfinder? still has that silly heritage base plate? no crystal screen protector? and I have to wait for delivery? Enjoy your cannon! How do you know all this? Hank and other R users have a legitimate grouse. Even the other brands are not a complete solution - several important R lenses can't be made to fit, even with Leitax type mount swaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted September 10, 2010 Share #5 Posted September 10, 2010 Uncalled for, IMO. Hank is merely reiterating what many others feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Taylor Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks Bill and John for coming to my rescue. This guy probably doesn't even own a made in Germany Leica. Sounds to me he wishes he had an M9 but I bet his wife won't let him spend the money. Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 10, 2010 Share #7 Posted September 10, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can understand the frustrations of Hank and others in the same position in that they have excellent lenses whose utility is now seen as restricted through the lack of a suitable digital body. However, I can't really see what Leica might be expected to do about it. It seems clear from what the company has said that there won't be a Leica DSLR, because either they can't fund its development or can't see the chance of seeing a return on the investment needed. So far as Leica is concerned the thinking is almost certainly that they have no obligation to create a new system to allow R lens owners to extend the use of their R optics. In that case, it's not Leica that has a problem but Hank and those who feel the same way. That the firm has the ability to make an autofocus DSLR is not in doubt - witness the arrival of the S2. Such a camera would be 'manna from heaven' for Hank but the chance of seeing it is probably very slight indeed. It may well be that R lens owners will have to be reconciled to using those lenses on the film cameras for which they were made, or make do with adaptations to other makes of body. Not a happy outcome, but perhaps inevitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2010 Share #8 Posted September 10, 2010 Leica said they had a solution for R users. We're like Sister Ann we don't see anything coming. Understand that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 10, 2010 Share #9 Posted September 10, 2010 This is just ridiculous. Leica R glass works in just the same way that it has always done. Brilliantly. On either Rs with film, or on the DMR. Alternatively, it also works brilliantly with Nikons ( to my personal knowledge ) or Canons. When most R users bought their kit, digital was a mere twinkle in the eye of their _children_. No one promised them a digital solution, for digital anything hadn't been invented. To be honest, Leica would have been better off leaving the DMR on the drawing board. They should gave killed off the R series with the R9. End of. I say this as a former R8/DMR user. Someone who has converted ALL his R glass to Leitax ( very happily ) They cannot make a full frame SLR body to compete with Canon or Nikon at a price that is either sensible, or will not bankrupt the company. The sooner that R users accept this fact, the sooner we can move on. Sorry, guys, but IMHO, Leica owe us nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 10, 2010 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2010 Leica said they had a solution for R users. We're like Sister Ann we don't see anything coming. Understand that? Er . . . not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 10, 2010 Share #11 Posted September 10, 2010 Er . . . not really. Let me google that for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 12, 2010 Share #12 Posted September 12, 2010 Let me google that for you Cheers, lct, only just seen your reply. Thanks for that helpful bit of Googlosity with the moving pointer bit, really neat stuff. But I knew about what Leica Camera had said previously, it was the Sister Ann bit that I didn't understand. And Im afraid I still don't. Was she one of the first to lobby for an "R Solution"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 12, 2010 Share #13 Posted September 12, 2010 ...it was the Sister Ann bit that I didn't understand. And Im afraid I still don't... Let me google that for you again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 12, 2010 Share #14 Posted September 12, 2010 Thanks, this Sister Ann question was a mistery for me too... ... but you wrote "Leica SAID they HAD a solution for R..." : indeed would be more correct to tell that they SAID they WILL HAVE... people (not me, no R user (*)) is still waiting... but Photokina is near and rumors are growing (FF EVIL ?) (*) no R bodies, but my mad love for lenses made me to get a Telyt 800 6,3... one day or another I hope to have "something" to mount behind it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 12, 2010 Share #15 Posted September 12, 2010 lct - ahhhhhh, now I understand ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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