cesare Posted July 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, after some years as happy M8 user, my new M9 arrived yesterday. Just to test high iso performance I took this evening a portrait of my daughter Giulia. I have to admit I'm very impressed by the outcome! Summicron 50, 1/12 sec, 2000 ISO handheld. Since I'm planning to keep M8 for telephoto and M9 for everything else, I'd be in for a lot of fun. Greetings. Cesare M8, M9, CV 15 M mount, Elmarit 21 pre-asph, 28 elmarit asph, 35 Summarit, 50 Summicron 90 Summarit (Tele Elmar f/4 in waiting list) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126583-m9-2000-iso/?do=findComment&comment=1383354'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Hi cesare, Take a look here M9 @ 2000 iso. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Paul Hart Posted July 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 20, 2010 At 1/12, that photo is as much a testament to your steady hand as the high ISO performance of the M9. However, it's a great camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 20, 2010 Share #3 Posted July 20, 2010 Cesare, that's a nice example of how usable the M9 is at those high ISO's. If you move to LR3 you will see further improvements to complement the camera's results as well. Regarding using your M8 for longer lenses, if you take the M8 18x27 'crop' from the same shot with your 24x36 M9 you will get even better results too. There's no actual advantage to using the M8 for those shots. Plus a 135 is usable if that is of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lafuechs Posted July 21, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 21, 2010 Dear hoppyman what is LR3? >If you move to LR3 you will see further improvements to complement the camera's results as well.< regards y Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 21, 2010 Lightroom 3 - the same goes for Photoshop CS5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 21, 2010 Share #6 Posted July 21, 2010 This compulsion to abbreviate (without explaining the abbreviation, of course) is a pest! LR3 stands for Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 3.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 21, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 21, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cesare, that's a nice example of how usable the M9 is at those high ISO's... The digital noise and the yellowish tint of the left arm look pretty ugly on my Apple display. Am i missing something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 21, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 21, 2010 Sorry to unclear by including that abbreviation. Usually I am told that my posts are too long I wrongly assumed that M9 owners would all be aware of Adobe Lightroom 3. It is an excellent and popular program for photographers. A Lightroom licence is provided to owners of the M9 if you register your camera with Leica. Currently you can obtain Version 2, however it is reported that you will be able to obtain Version 3 after the end of this month. To be clearer, this latest Raw converter has improved noise reduction which is especially helpful for high ISO photographs with the M8 and M9 For LCT. You may like to comment to the Original Poster rather than disagree with my comment by saying that the photo looks 'pretty ugly' to you.. My comment was meant to be constructive and I think that Cesare has done well with a first attempt on the first day with a new camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 21, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 21, 2010 I wrongly assumed that M9 owners would all be aware of Adobe Lightroom 3. It is an excellent and popular program for photographers. The question is not if one is or is not aware of Adobe Lightroom 3.0. I'm pretty sure 'lafuechs' knows what Lightroom is. The question is if one immediately and naturally understands that LR3 is supposed to mean Lightroom 3.0. And while we're at it: ACR usually is supposed to mean Adobe Camera Raw, PS5 could mean anything, including Adobe Photoshop 5.0 and Adobe Photoshop CS5; and C1 is often used as an abbreviation for Phase One Capture One. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 21, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 21, 2010 We all know that here. Why stating the obvious if i may ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted July 21, 2010 ...For LCT. You may like to comment to the Original Poster rather than disagree with my comment by saying that the photo looks 'pretty ugly' to you... Why so? I have nothing against the OP of course. We may all take ugly pictures from time to time. I was just surprised that you consider this pic as a proof that the M9 is most usable at high ISOs. Pretty much the contrary no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 21, 2010 Actually the question is would you like to comment on the photo that Cesare has shared. Not very productive to be picking at abbreviations here. The question is not if one is or is not aware of Adobe Lightroom 3.0. I'm pretty sure 'lafuechs' knows what Lightroom is. The question is if one immediately and naturally understands that LR3 is supposed to mean Lightroom 3.0. And while we're at it: ACR usually is supposed to mean Adobe Camera Raw, PS5 could mean anything, including Adobe Photoshop 5.0 and Adobe Photoshop CS5; and C1 is often used as an abbreviation for Phase One Capture One. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 21, 2010 Share #13 Posted July 21, 2010 Re-read what I actually said. You could certainly develop that shot further and I suggested a strategy for noise reduction as well. The photographer has done well regarding sharpness and exposure under the circumstances. The point is that you are calling the OP's first attempt with a new camera ugly in a remark to disagree with me rather than offering something constructive. You have done it again in your reply. Why so? I have nothing against the OP of course. We may all take ugly pictures from time to time. I was just surprised that you consider this pic as a proof that the M9 is most usable at high ISOs. Pretty much the contrary no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted July 21, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 21, 2010 I'm so glad that the only shooting in this forum is with cameras! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126583-m9-2000-iso/?do=findComment&comment=1383938'>More sharing options...
lct Posted July 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 21, 2010 ...The point is that you are calling the OP's first attempt with a new camera ugly in a remark to disagree with me rather than offering something constructive. You have done it again in your reply. Sounds like it becomes difficult to express whichever opinion does not flatter Leica or its faithful zealots without being considered 'destructive' in this good old forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 21, 2010 Sounds like it becomes difficult to express whichever opinion does not flatter Leica or its faithful zealots without being considered 'destructive' in this good old forum. Its damned sorry day if you can't accept something that was offered in good faith and exuberance without crapping on it. If your standards are higher lets see them. In fact, when did you last post in the Photo Forum, or any meaningful image, in a Gallery for instance? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 21, 2010 Share #17 Posted July 21, 2010 In fact, when did you last post in the Photo Forum, or any meaningful image, in a Gallery for instance? LCT has an image that earned a place in the Forum Book. Is that good enough for you? As to his comment on the original image, since when has "exuberance" excused mediocrity? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted July 21, 2010 Share #18 Posted July 21, 2010 The digital noise and the yellowish tint of the left arm look pretty ugly on my Apple display. Am i missing something here? Yes, you are, sorry: the arm colour shift is probably due to the multiple light temperatures evident in the shot, and I don't know what's wrong with your display, but obviously there is a problem there; the EIZO here doesn't show any visible noise whatsoever. The shot is certainly as good from a technical perspective as my D3 at the same ISO and with the same low, and not-very-high-quality light sources Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted July 21, 2010 Share #19 Posted July 21, 2010 LCT has an image that earned a place in the Forum Book. Is that good enough for you? As to his comment on the original image, since when has "exuberance" excused mediocrity? Regards, Bill Oh really, the Leica forum book? There's credibility for you. For heaven's (not Dawkin's) sake, Bill, really: ). LCT is wrong on this one No-one said the shot was stupendous, and he was saying how ugly the digital noise and colour shift was, not commenting on the actual photo. Coming from an M8, I was also very impressed with the M9 at ISO 2000. A snapshot is a snapshot--good for the original poster for exposing nicely in very low light. So I understand the OP's delight, and I'm at loss to understand what LCT means in this case, honestly. But then a lot of folks have totally un-print-related LCD setups these days. Ok, but I don't care about that: a normal-sized print of this would not show very much (if any) noise at all. What's not to like about that again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 21, 2010 Share #20 Posted July 21, 2010 Oh well. The picture is impressively sharp for being handheld. Also, there are parts of the picture which exhibit noise to a noticeable degree. The color of the left forearm is striking but not pleasantly so. Software products have names for no obvious reasons as no one seems to bother using them. Irrespective of what said software products are called, they can work wonders on noisy and color-shifted pictures in the hands of an expert. @OP: enjoy your M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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