Fotomiguel Posted June 25, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) This forum seems to be a bit crazy? In the last week my M9 has changed completely. Now I have to learn new possibilities, my new limits, may be not the same lenses to buy, etc. Now everything seems to be easy and photography and my M9 has a new world and a new way of shooting. But for this forum seems to be not very important and I'm sure that the administrator will move this thread to another place. But my M9 has change and now I can shoot different and better. The M9 is my camera. The M9 is my world and I hurricane has come. ISO 2500 is now totally fine. After one week testing my (new) M9 I can say it!!!!!!!!! May be is not important for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vanhulsenbeek Posted June 25, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 25, 2010 Miguel, your post shines like a ray of sunshine on this somber Forum world I have had a similar experience to yours, so I feel what you are feeling! Enjoy your M9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted June 25, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 25, 2010 Please outline how your M9 changed last week. Somehow I don't get it. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted June 25, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 25, 2010 I understood it changed his life. Did mine too! (Please understand: there is another world - planet if you wish - outside the USA, where unfortunately, poor aliens, not everybody speaks and writes perfect English! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted June 25, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 25, 2010 I would like it to change my life aswell! So congrats Miguel! Regards Steve PS: Btw, I am an alien from Germany;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted June 25, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 25, 2010 PS: Btw, I am an alien from Germany;) So close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted June 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) May be I have to explain it better. New L3 has change my M9. Now is possible to work with high ISO. I have the M9 for the last seven months and now I have to rethink how to work: find my new limits. Rebuild my method when low light. Rethink of which lenses to buy. We have an amazing camera with the best lenses. The weak point of our camera has disappeared with an easy and little postprocessing. This forum seems to be sleep. With this new software we should be all retesting our cameras and comparing our results and finding out the new possibilities of our camera with differents ISO. If the administrator is happy with this? The best improvement of our camera has happened and just a few of us seems to give it some importance. I know that this software is for all the cameras but I think that to our M9 is more important because resolve the weakness of our firmware with high iso and give extra power to our wonderful lenses and its image quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted June 25, 2010 Share #8 Posted June 25, 2010 Ah, now I understand! But you are right again Miguel! LR3 opens a whole new dimension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted June 25, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 25, 2010 Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm, Miguel. I enjoyed your M9 gallery, Especially the B&W. Wonderful content and execution. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted June 25, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 25, 2010 Miguel, this forum is full of enthusiastic posts about how Lightroom 3.0 and Camera Raw 6.1 have changed the M9's usability at high ISO settings for the better. So no, the forum definitely is not asleep or tranquilized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted June 25, 2010 This test shot was in a church and was quite high contrast. ISO 2500 M9 and 50mm Cron. Of course some crop 100x100 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/124593-new-new-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1361955'>More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted June 25, 2010 Miguel, this forum is full of enthusiastic posts about how Lightroom 3.0 and Camera Raw 6.1 have changed the M9's usability at high ISO settings for the better. So no, the forum definitely is not asleep or tranquilized. Yes. But it was move to digital processing and died so quick. I think we should keep it here and test our cameras again to find some conclusions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted June 25, 2010 Share #13 Posted June 25, 2010 LR 3 has improved the handling of the digital "grain", and (maybe) it may preserve a bit more detail and get better color at high ISO. But the basic limitation if the M9's high ISO is not the grain itself, but the loss of dynamic range, detail and color gamut, and neither LR nor any other software or firmware will make miracles here, because the basic limitation is the hardware, not the software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 26, 2010 Share #14 Posted June 26, 2010 Fotomiguel, I applaud your sentiments and enthusiasm about the M9, and share it with you. However, I have always been comfortable with the high iso because I process in C1. I find the combo of M9 + C1 to be so good that it has me on a constant high. I am not trying to reverse your discovery of LR3 because, just as with film, how each of us processes is a very personal and variable factor. That you have found your ideal combo is great and sharing your enthusiasm is wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted June 26, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 26, 2010 I'm with Miguel on this - MOD - not sure why this isn't in the M9 forum - it's not just an issue of post processing. As LR is Leica's approved RAW processing provider for the M9 I would like to see more sharing of experience in the M9 forum. I also recognise that users of C1 or Aperture may have been experiencing this goodness for some time - but for us others it does feel like a new dawn! The other thing worth mentioning here is how the printing images from the M9 has been improved with LR3. With the Epson 2880 I no longer need to cycle out to Photoshop or QTRip to print - I'm able to layout and print from within LR3 to levels of quality I had found horribly difficult to achieve with other software. Dreams come true? Yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share #16 Posted June 26, 2010 LR 3 has improved the handling of the digital "grain", and (maybe) it may preserve a bit more detail and get better color at high ISO. But the basic limitation if the M9's high ISO is not the grain itself, but the loss of dynamic range, detail and color gamut, and neither LR nor any other software or firmware will make miracles here, because the basic limitation is the hardware, not the software. Hi Ruben! In my example I had to underexpose to get detail in the highlights because the light was very strong and concentrated in the Virgin. I've chosen this image because I had to push DR to get the right postprocessing. In my opinion 2500 ISO is not too bad. Anyway I would use lowers ISO normally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted June 26, 2010 Fotomiguel, I applaud your sentiments and enthusiasm about the M9, and share it with you. However, I have always been comfortable with the high iso because I process in C1. I find the combo of M9 + C1 to be so good that it has me on a constant high. I am not trying to reverse your discovery of LR3 because, just as with film, how each of us processes is a very personal and variable factor. That you have found your ideal combo is great and sharing your enthusiasm is wonderful. I'm C1 user as well and for me is the best combo for low iso. It's very easy to find the right colors for the M8/M9 files with C1. Really easy. I've tried to process a M9 file 160 iso of a bright day with L3 and C1 at the same time and the clearly winner was C1. I couldn't achieve the same natural colors with L3. Even copying the same parameters, C1 was much better. Noise Reduction L3 is amazing. So for high iso files may be I'll process first with C1 and then finish with L3. I learning L3 but I really love the way it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 26, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 26, 2010 ..... snippedI learning L3 but I really love the way it works. More to the point, you clearly 'love the way you work'. A secret you cannot get from a book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted June 30, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 30, 2010 (Please understand: there is another world - planet if you wish - outside the USA, where unfortunately, poor aliens, not everybody speaks and writes perfect English! Here we go again... assuming all Americans are exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted June 30, 2010 Share #20 Posted June 30, 2010 May be I have to explain it better. New L3 has change my M9. Now is possible to work with high ISO. I have the M9 for the last seven months and now I have to rethink how to work: find my new limits. Rebuild my method when low light. Rethink of which lenses to buy. We have an amazing camera with the best lenses. The weak point of our camera has disappeared with an easy and little postprocessing. This forum seems to be sleep. With this new software we should be all retesting our cameras and comparing our results and finding out the new possibilities of our camera with differents ISO. If the administrator is happy with this? The best improvement of our camera has happened and just a few of us seems to give it some importance. I know that this software is for all the cameras but I think that to our M9 is more important because resolve the weakness of our firmware with high iso and give extra power to our wonderful lenses and its image quality. This is starting to sound like Nirvana, which is good. What specifically does LR3 offer that makes processing high-ISO files so much better? I have LR2.6, but use Topaz software or Noise Ninja to held manage high-ISO noise. I am dying to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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