yungwei Posted May 21, 2010 Share #1 Posted May 21, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can anyone shed some light on the M8.2 relaibility and potential problem as compared to M8? I heard that Leica fixed most issues found in M8 when they released M8.2. Does it mean that M8.2,i n general, is a more reliable camera compared to M8? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted May 21, 2010 Share #2 Posted May 21, 2010 No The cameras are identical in that respet. maybe the M8.2 shutter will be a bit more durable than the M8, as it runs slower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrus Posted May 21, 2010 Share #3 Posted May 21, 2010 I had two M8s and now have two M8-2s. The M8s had a lot of problems including misoperation with low batteries, glitches that required turning them off and on, etc., etc. The two M8-2s have been perfect without a single flaw. So I would say that the M8-2 is a big improvement in stability. I don't know where JAAPV gets the idea that they are identical but that is certainly not my experience. Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 21, 2010 Share #4 Posted May 21, 2010 From owning a couple them and three years of flawless operation (apart from the original recall)? To be honest, even more stable than my M9, which sometimes requires battry removal during sensor clean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted May 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted May 21, 2010 My M8 goes like a train, never had an issue in more than two years and a half of use. What an M8.2 is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 21, 2010 Share #6 Posted May 21, 2010 Most first generation cameras go through some teething problems. The M8 certainly did, but by now these issues have been well sorted. The M9 is no different, not surprisingly, and small changes will undoubtedly come along the way...firmware changes, maybe an M9.2, etc...until a new generation camera comes along with its own issues. M8.2 owners, in general, didn't have to go through these same early issues (if memories are short regarding the M8, just check old posts on the forum ). Even if these issues were for a minority of users (probably so since more people complain than say they're happy), I have to believe that M8.2 owner complaints are still fewer. Both cameras should be equally reliable in taking photos for a long time (in digital terms). But cosmetically, and perhaps in terms of minor service, unless an M8 was fully upgraded, there are some minor improvements in the M8.2 such as a power switch improvement, a more durable LCD and, as Jaap says, a better shutter. The jury is probably still out on the black chrome versus paint difference. But, none of these are significant, and of course have nothing to do with taking good photographs. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungwei Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted May 22, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks everyone. I really appreciate your input from your experience. I have a feeling that both cameras are basically solid with M8.2 being a bit more refine. I did call Leica USA and they agree that M8.2 is mostly likely a bit more reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 24, 2010 Share #8 Posted May 24, 2010 The M8.2 was nothing more than a late model M8 with a handful of parts changes, some cosmetic, some functional but the camera is fundamentally no different. Leica got better at building Digital Ms through the lifetime of the M8 and an upgrade M8 benefits from the same experience which benefitted the M8.2. You might not like the way the black paint on the M8.2 wears if you so much as look at it... For me, the top of the M8 tree is a chrome M8u. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted May 24, 2010 Share #9 Posted May 24, 2010 ;)The best M8 is the one in your hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 25, 2010 Share #10 Posted May 25, 2010 . For me, the top of the M8 tree is a chrome M8u. Sure wish I could find a good one (at a good price) as a back up to my black M8.2. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted May 25, 2010 Share #11 Posted May 25, 2010 For me, the top of the M8 tree is a chrome M8u. That's why I have two of those... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted May 25, 2010 Share #12 Posted May 25, 2010 ;)The best M8 is the one in your hands. ...if it happens to be working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 27, 2010 Share #13 Posted May 27, 2010 If you are buying in the used dept. another factor to consider is how much use the particular camera has gotten regardless of whether it is an M8 or M8.2, and how well it was treated. Also ask if there have been any issues with the camera, repairs, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted May 31, 2010 Share #14 Posted May 31, 2010 I've had my M8.2 for about 2 months and was able to do some extensive shooting (approx 2100 frames) with it over the last couple weeks. The only annoyances I've had thus far are: 1) If you don't shut off the camera and remove the SD card, the SD card does not get ejected properly and the images do not show up on the card. You must re-insert the card back into the camera, then shut the camera off and eject the card again to be able to properly eject the card and get the photos. 2) I've had the known shutter fault problem when I've accidentially set the camera to continuous mode while having the discrete advance setting on. 3) [user error] I've somehow accidentially drained my camera battery while it was in the bag and it required the battery to be fully charged before the camera was able to boot up again. Partially charging the battery did not allow the camera to boot up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2010 Share #15 Posted May 31, 2010 1. That is a new one to me - I've done that dozens of times, I'm sure, having used two bodies over three years+ and it did not cause any problem. 2. A number of cameras have been reported on this forum with this problem. Mine never showed the error. 3.That one is completely unknown. Are you sure you are using a Leica battery, not a third-party one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted May 31, 2010 Share #16 Posted May 31, 2010 ................. 3) [user error] I've somehow accidentially drained my camera battery while it was in the bag and it required the battery to be fully charged before the camera was able to boot up again. Partially charging the battery did not allow the camera to boot up. I've had that happen a couple of times with an early M8. Genuine Leica brand batteries completely drained and the camera quite warm when taken out of the bag. Since it has happened so infrequently I've not been able to identify the cause. Leica UK told me they'd never encountered the problem . This has been reported a few times before, for example see this thread. I'm assuming you didn't have the camera's Auto Power Off menu option set to "Off" and you put the camera in the bag with the camera still switched on? Also, even if the Power Off is enabled and you put the camera away still switched on any pressure on the shutter release will activate the metering displaying 3>2" (dark bag) which will drain the battery. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted February 8, 2011 Share #17 Posted February 8, 2011 very reliable the shutter goes up to 1/8000 which is an advantage it is a chrome M8, purchased about a month after the camera's announcement haven't used it much since getting the M9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted February 8, 2011 Share #18 Posted February 8, 2011 No The cameras are identical in that respet. maybe the M8.2 shutter will be a bit more durable than the M8, as it runs slower. I thought the M8.2 had a different shutter than the M8 since the M8 had some shutter issues initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted February 8, 2011 Share #19 Posted February 8, 2011 I thought the M8.2 had a different shutter than the M8 since the M8 had some shutter issues initially. I've never had a shutter issue. My memory of the reason for the shutter change was that the new shutter is much quieter... and the noise of the M8 shutter is my only complaint with the original camera. My M8 has functioned perfectly over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 8, 2011 Share #20 Posted February 8, 2011 I thought the M8.2 had a different shutter than the M8 since the M8 had some shutter issues initially. I thought the shutters were the same, but the curtains ran more slowly on the M8.2 - hence the quieter shutter and loss of 1/8000th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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