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Ok, something easy ...

 

I invite the experts to wait a day to give newbies a chance ;)

 

Andreas,

 

Might I ask you to “up-size” your crops in Photoshop or similar. Just click on “Constrain Aspect Ratio and make the largest dimension 1024 pixels (the other dimension will set itself). For those using smaller laptop screens, it is very difficult to see your crops.

 

Wilson

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bonus points for the location

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It appears that this thread is dying. Ok, here is the full car:

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Andreas,

 

I have to admit to interest in the thread waning. If I had looked at your last clip (not the whole car) I would have got it instantly as I often drive an Alpina Z8. I would guess this might be in the UK Design Gallery. It is interesting how Herr Bovensiepen at Alpina transforms one of BMW’s less wonderful creations into a gem. I am a big fan of Herr Bovensiepen having had two of his cars - one of the very early ones an E9 3.0 couple in 1973 (not the ideal car to have during the fuel crisis) and a few years ago a B10 4.8L V8S.

 

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Yes, of course a BMW Z8.

 

This is in the BMW Museum in Munich. The English number plate is from the James Bond movie "The world is not enough" from 1999, where the Z8 served as a Bond car (together with other BMWs).

 

Your turn, Wilson!

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I've only seen one Z8 when it was first released and found it the most attractive Bimmer since the 507, from which it is clearly a direct descendent. Beautiful.

 

My brother had a BMW Z8 at his Florida house but quickly sold it as he felt it was very underdeveloped, had a heavy clutch, clunky gearbox and the suspension was very harsh. He now has an Alpina Z8, which he says is totally different. It has the ZF auto box and the suspension is much altered, hugely improved and overall a very nice car.

 

We have been looking at 507’s as they are very pretty and rare. The problem is that they rust badly like many 1950’s classics and not many of the very few they built (252) are well restored. They are really not a great drive in comparison to the similar price when new, 300SL. The engine is fragile and considerably less powerful than the 300SL (150HP against 220). A friend has been trying to develop his 507 V8 engine to give more power with some downdraft Weber carburettors and different cam. The engine has not been reliable, overheating and running bearings etc. Now if John Surtees ever decided to sell his 507 with the MV Augusta developed engine and all round disc brakes, that would be a different matter.

 

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The 507 was fragile, and a poor value against cars like the 300 SL as you pointed out, but it certainly was beautiful. When Bristol remade the BMW 328 engine one of the critics wrote, "BMW made it first, but Bristol made it last." I also find the AC Bristol Ace and the Aceca coupe to be lovely.

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The 507 was fragile, and a poor value against cars like the 300 SL as you pointed out, but it certainly was beautiful. When Bristol remade the BMW 328 engine one of the critics wrote, "BMW made it first, but Bristol made it last." I also find the AC Bristol Ace and the Aceca coupe to be lovely.

 

Stuart,

 

We were getting a reliable 175HP from the 2L Bristol engine in our Frazer Nash, albeit over a fairly narrow rev range. You just have to be very careful not to over-rev. Our BMW 328 actually has a Bristol Engine in it but that is how it was raced by the original owner, Betty Haig in the 1940’s and 50’s, so is regarded as acceptable.

 

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My brother had a BMW Z8 at his Florida house but quickly sold it as he felt it was very underdeveloped, had a heavy clutch, clunky gearbox and the suspension was very harsh. He now has an Alpina Z8, which he says is totally different. It has the ZF auto box and the suspension is much altered, hugely improved and overall a very nice car.

 

We have been looking at 507’s as they are very pretty and rare. The problem is that they rust badly like many 1950’s classics and not many of the very few they built (252) are well restored. They are really not a great drive in comparison to the similar price when new, 300SL. The engine is fragile and considerably less powerful than the 300SL (150HP against 220). A friend has been trying to develop his 507 V8 engine to give more power with some downdraft Weber carburettors and different cam. The engine has not been reliable, overheating and running bearings etc. Now if John Surtees ever decided to sell his 507 with the MV Augusta developed engine and all round disc brakes, that would be a different matter.

 

Wilson

 

Agree in everything and if you get the Surtees 507, call me ;) Most people misunderstood the Z8 (even BMW folks did). Bovensiep knew what to do. They better let HIM develope the series car. A guy close to us has both, an original for the garage and the Alpina for driving. The 507 cannot be compared to the 300 SL. Both were lady killers, the SL killed the ladies with beeing a sportscar (in most cases they were sitting on the co-pilots seat and they HATED it), the 507 killed them because they drove it :rolleyes: The Z8 I disliked when it was new. Today I like them, as an Alpina.

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Here is the next one. I think it’s pretty easy but then I have seen the whole car :)

 

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