wlaidlaw Posted October 9, 2012 Share #4221 Posted October 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Next one - A friend of mine is the grandson of the founder of this company. This is not one of their more famous models but is quite a famous car. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2137363'>More sharing options...
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SJP Posted October 9, 2012 Share #4222 Posted October 9, 2012 Zebra? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share #4223 Posted October 9, 2012 Zebra? Driven by Count Zebrowski? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 9, 2012 Share #4224 Posted October 9, 2012 Zebra? No the one below is a Le Zebre Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2137525'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 12, 2012 Share #4225 Posted October 12, 2012 You obviously need a clue. It is a double barrelled English name and the answer is exactly what a Cockney car dealer would tell you when you asked what it was. He would say it's a ........... Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.Pichler Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4226 Posted October 13, 2012 'cause VC5461 is a Lea Francis, I am going for a Lea Francis meeting. Are we talking about Lea Francis? Cheers, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.Pichler Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4227 Posted October 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...and in case she*s not a Lea Francis: Are we talking about the Brooklands Double Tewlve races? Cheers, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4228 Posted October 13, 2012 Andreas, It is a British car with two words in the name of the make. The second word is what an east end of London car dealer calls his customers to their face (not what he calls them behind their back) Wilson PS Not a Lea Francis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.Pichler Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4229 Posted October 13, 2012 I am totally lost...but of course have more retired coal miners from the german Ruhrgebiet area around me than car dealers speaking cockney ;-) So its a Vickers-Goodaseeya_sire_thismakes_myday zebra racer? And no clap on the shoulders because recognized Lea Francis Hyper S? Make me happy :-) Cheers, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.Pichler Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4230 Posted October 13, 2012 ...assumed, that car dealers in the outer districts of big cities are worldwide acting similar: In Germany the typical greeting is"Whas zallst?" ("How much you want to pay?") I have made some experiences in Brazil pre-loved-cars areas last year "Whuaff so? (Portuguese for "How much you want to pay?") and bay area, Oakland, some years ago, "Whatuff?" (I understand local greece/portuguese/mexican mixture for "How much you want to pay?") Ah, and a used car car yard near Abingdon, running by some scotsmen "Whurf?" I assume, same meaning as explained above. Each closed deal was, by the the way, carried out in a perfect gentleman like manner. A "Spitfire Whtautuuff"? HELP ME! Cheers, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 13, 2012 Share #4231 Posted October 13, 2012 I think I better help you out here. It's a Straker Squire. To an east end car dealer, all customers are "squire" so when asked what car is that - they would answer "it's a Straker .....squire. On the Lea Francis, I assumed you had looked up its registration number VC5461 on Google, which leads you to RacingSportsCars.com, showing this number as belonging to a Lea Francis Hyper Sports. Here is the whole Straker Squire. Ian Straker, the grandson of the founder of the company is a friend of mine. The photograph is taken at Brooklands Museum, which is well worth a visit. It has improved a lot since Mercedes bought the site. Long before the museum opened, when my kids were young, I got permission to take an ex-Brooklands Speed Six Bentley (The Rabagliati HM Bentley Special) right up onto the remains of the banking with them in the car. It feels very steep when you are moving slowly and the kids were squealing like mad, thinking they were going to fall out. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2140773'>More sharing options...
Andreas.Pichler Posted October 14, 2012 Share #4232 Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Wilson, I googled until my fingertipps start bleeding. I googled every VC5461 race, I think I know more of the history than hers owner, I googled every double barreled english car company, but didnt found a Straker Squrie. So thats riddle a really good one for me. But lets hear us a bit more about the zebra design...is there a connection to the designers in 2nd world war, who invented the special type of camouflage for the British Navy? Cheeras, Andreas Edited October 14, 2012 by Andreas.Pichler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 14, 2012 Share #4233 Posted October 14, 2012 Andreas, I would guess you are correct that the design was inspired by the "Dazzle" camouflage of WW1. This was developed by a group of artists and scenery painters employed by the war office, originally to produce armoured firing points camouflaged as trees for trench warfare. They were then asked by the admiralty to apply their knowledge to ships as defence against submarines. The artists had great difficulty persuading the conservative admirals that they should paint their smart grey battleships in this garish fashion. See the picture below of a WW1 aircraft carrier. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2140943'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 14, 2012 Share #4234 Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Not within the hearing of Sig. Enzo! This was designed by the breakaway group who left after a monumental row in 1961. The group included Giancarlo Baghetti, Carlo Chiti, Giotto Bizzarrini and Franco Scaglione. The money came from Count Volpi but nowhere near enough. The whole thing ended in tears and ill feeling all round. Their F1 car apparently gives the LIFE 190 and Simtek cars a serious run for their money as close to the worst ever GP cars. The worst ever of course, being Count Trossi's 16 cylinder two stroke Radial engined 750kg car of 1935. I suspect the 16 cylinders is a myth as it only seems to have 8 spark plugs! Wilson I just checked the specification of the 1935 Trossi-Monaco as per Denis Jenkinson's 'Racing Car Pocket Book': "This revolutionary machine was designed and built by Augusto Monaco for Count Trossi as a Grand Prix car. The chassis frame was made from small tubing on aircraft lines in what we now call a space-frame. On the nose of the fuselage was mounted a 4-litre 8-cylinder, double-piston 2-stroke radial engine, air cooled, with two Zoller-type M160 superchargers, and this drove the front wheels, which were independently sprung ... this 'one-off' special never achieved complete development being abandoned shortly after its first outing" At the time the book was published in 1962 the car was in the Turin Automobile Museum. EDIT: The double piston configuration is explained here: http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/c8b.htm Best wishes dunk Edited October 14, 2012 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 14, 2012 Share #4235 Posted October 14, 2012 Dunk, These must the same idea as the "Twingles" that I mentioned in respect of DKW racing motorcycles. Presumably the idea is to reduce piston weights and con rod loading, with the downside of additional weight and complication. I have a book back in the UK, which I bought 50 years ago, while still at school (it was very expensive then I recall) whose exact name I forget but it lists all racing and racing sports cars up to around 1940. I remember being fascinated by the limited details and photographs of the Trossi that it showed. I will post its name, when I get back to the UK next week. Much later, we had and raced Count Trossi's 1938 6CM Maserati monoposto car. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4236 Posted October 17, 2012 Will we see a new car, Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4237 Posted October 17, 2012 Been travelling back from France for last two days. Anyway here is the next one. A much easier one this time. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2143560'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4238 Posted October 17, 2012 Maybe much easier, but for some this is still "greek" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4239 Posted October 17, 2012 Very familiar. A Simca? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4240 Posted October 17, 2012 Dodge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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