wlaidlaw Posted July 17 Share #23621 Posted July 17 Advertisement (gone after registration) The only front engine Formula 500 car I can think of is 1951 Martin before that too went rear engined for later years. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.j.z Posted July 17 Share #23622 Posted July 17 This car is from 1948 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 17 Share #23623 Posted July 17 And it is not British, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 17 Share #23624 Posted July 17 I was guessing it was either Austrian or German but my racing annuals from that period only show the later Monopoletta, RJS and BJR cars from that part of Europe and they were all rear engined. The only front engined car I could find was an early prototype Martin but not even sure it raced, as rear engine cars were totally dominant, Cooper, Kieft etc. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 17 Share #23625 Posted July 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, a.j.z said: ...It may be a little unfair as only this one example exists and the owner built it himself... ...in which case 'little' may be a little bit of an understatement for anyone who has not, personally, visited this particular museum......😸...... Judging by some of the background paraphernalia (I have absolutely no idea what the car itself might be) it could very well be German? Connections with Porsche or M-Benz? Very pretty tail-treatment! Looking forward to see how this one develops and plays-out. Philip. Edited July 17 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted July 18 Share #23626 Posted July 18 I think it could be Puch-engined maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 18 Share #23627 Posted July 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes to German (car and driver). No Puch engine but also German from a once big motorcycle producer that went bankrupt in 1984 and recently was revived in China (as many others). There is no obvious Porsche or Mercedes link. The car participated in the German Formula 3 series in 1948. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 18 Share #23628 Posted July 18 Here is the front Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5835124'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 18 Share #23629 Posted July 18 Perhaps a Maico engine? They went out of business in the '80s, but I know nothing about them after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 18 Share #23630 Posted July 18 My guess would be an MZ engine. They went bust in 1993 and there were then all sorts of shenanigans regarding the relaunch, resulting in owners suing banks and banks suing owners and the winners were? - The lawyers. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 18 Share #23631 Posted July 18 The engine is from Zündapp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 18 Share #23632 Posted July 18 André Denis DS Formula 500/F3? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 18 Share #23633 Posted July 18 This is really close but not Denis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 19 Share #23634 Posted July 19 That is the only 500 car that the 500 owners association lists with a Zundapp engine. There is a car called a Wehrlin which looks like your image but had a JAP engine. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 19 Share #23635 Posted July 19 (edited) As it is apparently impossible to find as the information on this care is rare and only available on German language websites, I disclose the car: It is a Ludewig-Eigenbau - driver and constructor was Rolf Ludewig. The car started in the German Formula 3 Championship in 1948 (not very successful) - it is #14 on this list to be found on formel3guide.com: https://www.formel3guide.com/images/starter/1948-starter-krw.pdf Built 1948, 500 ccm, 33 hp, vmax 176 km/h, 220 kg, two separate break systems. Wilson, the 500 owners association has a „Ludwig-Eigenbau“ but this is a different car (with similar name): https://500race.org/marques/ludwig-eigenbau/ It does not feature the Ludewig (maybe they do not cover 1948). I will post a new one. Edited July 19 by a.j.z 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 19 Share #23636 Posted July 19 The car in the museum has what look like Ford Model A wheels (bolt on spoked), rather than the wheels in the period photo, which look like they come off the track bogies of a Kettenkrad German Army tracked three wheeler. I suspect the engine variations are from blowing up engine #1 and then seeing what the local scrapyard has going cheap for engines #2 or #3. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 19 Share #23637 Posted July 19 Ok, next try: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5835722'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 19 Share #23638 Posted July 19 A lot newer than the F3 car. No more than 10 years old, and high performance? Perhaps only 3 wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 19 Share #23639 Posted July 19 Yes to new and high performance, no to 3 wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 20 Share #23640 Posted July 20 Another angle: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5836352'>More sharing options...
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