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6 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

1948 Holden FJ?...

Time-line for start of production of this model is spot-on.

It was manufactured solely by a Ford subsidiary (never in the USA) but not by Holden; think more towards Continental Europe...

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There was one Ford subsidiary I forgot. Looked at all the others. A 1948 Ford Simca Vedette. The image matches. I seem to recall it used the Flathead V8, the same one as the Ford Pilot in the UK used. I don't think it can have been very popular, given the price of petrol in France at the time and high taxes for cars over 2 litres. 

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1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said:

There was one Ford subsidiary I forgot. Looked at all the others. A 1948 Ford Simca Vedette. The image matches. I seem to recall it used the Flathead V8, the same one as the Ford Pilot in the UK used. I don't think it can have been very popular, given the price of petrol in France at the time and high taxes for cars over 2 litres...

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Yes; a Ford Vedette made by Ford S.A.F (Société Anonyme Française) at their plant in Yvelines, to the west of Paris, between 1948 and 1954. I seem to recall that this particular example was made in '51 but can't be certain. It did feature a Poissy-made version of the 'Flathead' V8 and although it was produced in numerous body-styles the Wiki entry mentions that the Vedette enjoyed 'limited popularity'.

Two shots showing the full thing;

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Here is the inecitable link to the Wiki entry;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Vedette

...and a second link to a page from the (pleasantly enthusiastic) French Club's website. Who knows; they might even have a show coming somewhere near Tourtour sometime if you are lucky!

https://clubvedettefrance.fr/tous-les-salons-du-printemp2025/

Well done and thanks, everyone, for having a go!

Philip.

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The 2.2L version of the Ford Flathead of the "taxation special" Vedette, must be one of the smallest V8's ever offered in a production car. I can't offhand think of any smaller ones. Ferrari did propose a 308 with a 2 litre V8 engine called the 208, only in Italy, as another taxation special but I am not sure they sold any of them. With only 60 BHP the Vedette would not give you whiplash from its acceleration. 

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1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said:

...Ferrari did propose a 308 with a 2 litre V8 engine called the 208, only in Italy, as another taxation special but I am not sure they sold any of them...

Many years ago now I remember having read a road-test (in Classic and Sportscar magazine?) of a 208 GTB; a model whose existence, hitherto, had been unknown to me. I've just had a look but, unfortunately, can't find the article anywhere on the www.

What I did find, however, (and which, I assure you, surprised me greatly!) was that not only was there a GTB; there were also GTS and, even earlier, GT4 variants produced. Not only that but with the GTB / GTS Ferrari also made turbocharged versions(!) these cars being, as it says in the link, "the first ever turbocharged road-going Ferrari(s)"

As can be seen in the links posted below the 208 GT4 was released in 1975 before being replaced by the 208 GTB in 1980.

Here's a link to the Wiki entry for the 308 GTB / GTS where there is mention of the 208 GTB / GTS with production figures quoted as being 140 / 160 respectively. The production figures for the Turbo versions are stated as having been 437 (GTB) and 250 (GTS);

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_308_GTB/GTS#208_GTB/GTS

The link for the 208 GT4 of which 840 were made;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_GT4#208_GT4

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I loved it when I was young and I still think that the 308 GTB is one of the prettiest Ferraris ever made...

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Let's try this one.  All the usuals, please.

 

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I made an error.  This one is from 1937.  Here's a second crop:

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Let's try a Fiat SPa TL37. My next door neighbour at our last house had the remains of one of these tucked away in a barn, along with the derelict remains of various Rolls Royce cars and loads of dead lawnmowers. He had acquired the SPa in the first battle of Tobruk in April 1941, against the Italians and as a warrant officer in the REME (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers), with his own vehicle recovery team, was allowed to keep it and register as a British military vehicle. He stayed in that part of the world and became a sergeant in the Palestine Protectorate Police, who were nearly all ex British military. He had managed to smuggle the SPa home on a boat, when they were all evacuated after the independence of Israel in 1948. 

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Difficult. I understood that it is German? It is not a Einheitswagen variant as suggested by Wilson?
 

It appears thar it has rear axle steering (or it is just broken 😉). The air intake (?) above the rear wheels suggests a rear engine. 

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Interesting observations, Andreas, and correct as far as they go.  This next crop will take you even closer:

 

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13 hours ago, stuny said:

Interesting observations, Andreas, and correct as far as they go.  This next crop will take you even closer:

Including the "rear wheel steering" and "rear-engined" 'observations'?

Are you sure, Stuart, because these details - like all details - matter a great deal in such cases.

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2 minutes ago, pippy said:

Including the "rear wheel steering" and "rear-engined" 'observations'?

Are you sure, Stuart, because these details - like all details - matter a great deal in such cases.

Philip.

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1 minute ago, stuny said:

Yes.

Thank you very much, Stuart, for the confirmation! In which case my 'Thinking-Cap' clearly needs a reset!

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Enjoying this one!

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