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2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Philip, 

I suspect the aerodynamic spoiler lip on the front valance is also a later edition. 

Wilson

It might be, Wilson, but I suspect that the light patch is simply a reflection of the lighter area of the floor...

A fair percentage of my day-job involves photographing rounded shiny objects under studio lighting so it is something which I find needs to be addresssed on almost a daily basis. Happily I'm not a 'Product Photographer' per se so I don't have quite the same headache as those snappers who are required to shoot chrome-finish hemispherical kettles;

https://www.daraz.lk/products/whistling-kettle-stainless-steel-25-liter-stove-kettle-25-ltr-i132535521.html

 ......😸......

Philip.

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I don't think so in this case Philip, as the shape of the lip mirrors the shape of the joining bodywork wing central section crease, unless that is a reversed image and any shadow of the bodywork which should be darker, if reversed becomes lighter. 

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Wilson is of course correct. A VW WD (Wolfgang Denzel) Sport. WD was an Austrian motorcycle racer who in parallel to Porsche developed a sports car based on VW parts. He used VW Kübelwagen and VW wrecks left from the German Wehrmacht after WW II. The coachbuilder was Kastenhofer, another Austrian company, where also the first Porsche prototypes came from.

Information in English is rather limited: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denzel_(automobile)

Photos with M11 and Tri-Elmar 16/18/21 😀

 

 

 

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Philip, 

You were correct. It was not a spoiler lip but just the effect of light on the curved bodywork. Grovel grovel. 

Open to all to post. I should have gone to the classic car meet in the village on Sunday but I was so tired from my horrible journey down through France, I did not wake up until around 11 AM. I also had not unpacked any of my cameras other than the Minox 35ML which sits in my Man bag. 

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28 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

Philip...

Heavens-to-Betsy, Wilson!

I certainly hope no-one is keeping score in terms of members' guesses and assertions here because, if so, by now you will be several thousand points clear of myself......😸......

Philip.

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1 hour ago, a.j.z said:

Wilson is of course correct. A VW WD (Wolfgang Denzel) Sport. WD was an Austrian motorcycle racer who in parallel to Porsche developed a sports car based on VW parts. He used VW Kübelwagen and VW wrecks left from the German Wehrmacht after WW II. The coachbuilder was Kastenhofer, another Austrian company, where also the first Porsche prototypes came from.

Information in English is rather limited: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denzel_(automobile)...

Thanks for all that, Andreas, because it sheds new (different?) light on much of what I had read in the past.

Back in the late '80s I bought my first car which was a '59 'Sonnendach' (Rag-top Sunroof) VW Typ-1; a.k.a. Beetle. My flatmate at the time had a '59 Karmann Cabriolet and both of our cars were very much in the 'rolling-restoration' phase. As such we attended a great many VW events (of which there were dozens per year) to acquire / find various 'bits' for our cars. At the time the VW scene was absolutely thriving and many owners brought rare models to shows so we were able, on a fairly regular basis, to see examples from Hebmuller, Rometsch-Beeskow, Denzel, Dannenhauer und Stauss etc...etc...

The rarest-of-the-rare was the sole example of a Stoll coupé ever made whose owner lived in Kent (I believe) and he was an enthusiastic attendee at the 'Peppercorn' Vintage VW Festival every year.

My fascination with coach-built VW cars dates back quite a long way!

My flatmate (FWIW) went on to acquire a 1955 RHD Karmann Cabriolet which he still owns to this day.

For anyone with an interest in these cars having a stroll through the following link / rabbit-hole might be of some interest;

https://www.bugland.be/Verschillende_Vw-types_Coachbuilt.html#ABR

Philip.

 

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Let's try the near red car, not the 250 SWB. The usual information please.

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I too wondered about a special bodied version of the LM like the Pininfarina 250LM MM but I think the only one of those built was painted white with stripes. 

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Sincere apologies to Ivan for sticking-in my oar after what I wrote earlier but;

How many days are there in a non leap-year?...

Philip.

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The common theme in the previous six posts is that this is a Ferrari, which is correct, but the various model identifications are all wide of the mark......except Philips' witty rhetorical question about the number of days in a normal year - that number is the.... essential core element in the correct designation for this car.

Have fun following up on that.

JZG 

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Philip's clue suggests a 365 engine,  Perhaps a rspecial acing prototype GTB.  Not the road going, which has a snoopy rear cabin and deck.  Not a car I'm familiar with.

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The only car which I can think of that fits the parameters is a 365 BB Competizione where there was one prepared for Le Mans in 1977 built by NART not Ferrari. 

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1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said:

The only car which I can think of that fits the parameters is a 365 BB Competizione where there was one prepared for Le Mans in 1977 built by NART not Ferrari...

You are very much heading down the correct path, Wilson, except that unlike here - as it were - the BB had the horse behind the cart......😸......

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If there isn't any progress over the next hour or so shall I relate the rather fascinating story of why this particular Ferrari didn't race at Le Mans despite having qualified?

Philip.

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First things first; I'll play my Get Out of Jail Free card right at the very beginning because I'm not 100% sure that my guess will prove to be correct!......

If I am correct then I believe it to be Ferrari chassis number 15965 which started its life in 1972 as a regular 365 GTB/4 Daytona. In 1974 it was rebodied by Michelotti with a very angular style - complete with a Targa roof section - for Luigi Chinetti; he of the North American Racing Team. 

If the above happens to be correct then some small part of the next chapter of its life will follow...

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It's obvious one of us knows the answer, but to give everyone a chance to identify this car, here's another crop to help things along. I'm not sure if it's frowned upon to consult Dr. Google in these matters, but feel free to do so in this case because there really isn't a whole lot of information on this series of cars in the 'usual' Ferrari books and literature.

JZG 

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