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2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Peugeot Darl'mat? It is the only French car I can think of with bolt on wire wheels until the Facel Vega arrived. 

Wilson

I failed to catch a typo - not mid 39s, rather, the mid-'30s - and you apparently missed that I wrote above that it is not a French car.

Let's try one more crop.....

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Wilson, the Audi guess is much closer than the two previous attempts. Yes it is German, and Audi was part of Auto Union, but the blue car in question is actually represented by another of the four rings comprising the Auto Union corporate badge.

Stuart, German is correct, but not a BMW.

I think we've most likely milked this one for all it's worth and doubt we'll receive any more guesses, therefore permit me to reveal that it's a 1938 Wanderer W25 Cabriolet.

A lovely car indeed, and I vividly remember my father owning one when we lived in Vienna after the war, but ours was a W24 sedan in black with tan cloth upholstery.

Thanks for playing the game,

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2 hours ago, Ivan Goriup said:

...I think we've most likely milked this one for all it's worth and doubt we'll receive any more guesses...

Without wishing to come across as a 'Moaning Minnie', Ivan, and with the greatest of respect the time between posting the first image and the reveal was a mere 21 hours. Less than one day is hardly - in my opinion - too long a time-frame in which members have a chance to view the images as not all of us can access the Forum on a 'whenever one wishes' basis. 

In addition the first pic was posted at midnight UK time so for anyone in Europe who sleeps during the night-time hours and has a day-job this 'possible' 21 hour time-frame becomes ridiculous.

Just something to bear in mind if we want to keep this thread alive.

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DKW, Horch, Wanderer and Audi were all part of Auto Union. Wanderer and Audi produced quite similar cars but Audi were FWD against the RWD of the Wanderer. This model had a Dr. Porsche designed 2 litre straight six with a supercharger and would have been a direct competitor for the BMW 328. 

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On 2/20/2025 at 4:37 PM, pippy said:

Without wishing to come across as a 'Moaning Minnie', Ivan, and with the greatest of respect the time between posting the first image and the reveal was a mere 21 hours. Less than one day is hardly - in my opinion - too long a time-frame in which members have a chance to view the images as not all of us can access the Forum on a 'whenever one wishes' basis. 

In addition the first pic was posted at midnight UK time so for anyone in Europe who sleeps during the night-time hours and has a day-job this 'possible' 21 hour time-frame becomes ridiculous.

Just something to bear in mind if we want to keep this thread alive.

P.

Philip, mea culpa, and you are absolutely correct. No excuse nor a good reason for rushing through it like that. I shall endeavor not to repeat the mistake in the future.

Apropos the Wanderer, as I was reviewing the images of the previous thread I noticed in some of the photos I did not use that parked only a couple of cars away at that event was a very nice example of of the even rarer that Wilson guessed, an Audi 225 Front Roadster. You really can notice how very similar the two cars looked ( see images below ), first the Wanderer

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....and now the Audi. These are very rare cars in the US and I don't know of any others in this country.

In the following post below I will take Stuarts sound advice and post a new car in the hope we can get this thread back on track.

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Here's the new submission for the next 'puzzle car'....the usual info, please.

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16 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Could it be a 1949 Kurtis Roadster with an added bonnet scoop? 

Wilson

Impressive ! That is probably the closest anyone who ever guessed a car on this thread has come to identifying the puzzle car without actually naming the car outright.... but it is not a Kurtis product per se. On the other hand, the light blue car above is so very close to being exactly what Wilson has suggested it is, that for the sake of propagating this thread, Philip's elapsed time-based admonishments notwithstanding, Wilson has indeed offered an acceptably valid identification of this car. As an aside, I would be willing to wager that it's the distinctive headlight fairing, courtesy of Dick Troutman, Kurtis's chief 'panel beater', who, with fellow co-worker Tom Barnes went on to establish the legendary Troutman & Barnes race-car building shop - they later built the Reventlow Scarabs, Jim Hall's Chaparrals, the famous 4-door 911 Porsche, etc....

The car is actually a Muntz Jet. Earl 'Madman' Muntz, a flamboyant used-car salesman, inventor, entrepreneur and manufacturer of early TVs purchased the assets of Frank Kurtis's Kurtis Kraft Car Company of Glendale, California in 1950, just as Kurtis was about to launch the latest model of his KSC  ( Kurtis Sports Car ) line in 1949. To make the car more attractive to upscale buyers, Muntz incorporated some changes, replacing the original Ford 'flathead' engine with a Cadillac OHV motor, extending the chassis to make it a four-seater and supplying a metal / fiberglass hardtop with each car ( see the top laying on the ground behind the car in the image below) since it had no soft top. Muntz claimed to have built approx. 400 of these, but actual records show that 198 Jets were produced between 1950 & '54. Muntz claimed he lost more than US $1000 per car and stopped production of the Jet model in the mid-fifties.

The image below, the only one I have of a Muntz Jet, was taken at the 'Cars-on-the-Avenue' informal Concours in Carmel, CA, one of the mainstays of Monterey Speed Week. The placard accompanying the car stated that this is the fifteenth model produced, making it an early, aluminum-bodied, Cadillac-engined version. Muntz later moved production of the Jet to Chicago and replaced the Cadillac motor with a flathead Lincoln engine " because it was cheaper".

I assume Wilson will open it to anyone with something worthwhile to post.

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