Graham (G4FUJ) Posted October 20, 2023 Share #20781 Posted October 20, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Think we've seen those rear suspension turrets before? They do stand out! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Hi Graham (G4FUJ), Take a look here Name this car..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted October 20, 2023 Share #20782 Posted October 20, 2023 Chapman struts so maybe a 1958-63 Elite? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 20, 2023 Share #20783 Posted October 20, 2023 And of course, Wilson is correct. I posted the crop in B&W rather than the original BRG. This one is a '62, and one of eh more appealing coupe's I've seen. Your turn. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4878770'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 20, 2023 Share #20784 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Stuart, you would not like them much if you ever had to work on one. Many of the components are mounted on bobbins, which are poorly fibreglassed to the fibreglass shell. As the bolts often corrode into the metal inserts in the bobbins, when you try and undo the bolt, the whole bobbin then shears off, with lots of razor sharp bits of fibreglass sticking out. As the shell does not conduct electricity, everything has to have its own earth, so electrical problems are endemic. Lovely car when working well and the Climax FWE engine is a little gem, especially in stage 5 tune. Sadly working well unless very expensively restored, is a rare occurrence. No interesting cars to photograph in Valencia, so open to anyone who would like to post. Wilson PS The Élite bodyshells were contracted out but I cannot recall to whom. Lotus initially tried to make them but they did not pass even their sloppy QC. Edited October 20, 2023 by wlaidlaw 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20785 Posted October 21, 2023 This is open to anyone. Who will step in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk356 Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20786 Posted October 21, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4879241'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20787 Posted October 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 minutes ago, jk356 said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Fun photos, but not what we're looking for in this thread. In this thread we post a mystery car, or part of one, and other members must guess what it is. Whoever guesses correctly gets to post the next mystery car. Have a look back at a few pages of this thread. Unless of course you want us to identify the 911 Targa and 356. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk356 Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20788 Posted October 21, 2023 Sorry should I delete them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20789 Posted October 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, jk356 said: Sorry should I delete them? Oh no. Don't bother. BTW: Which model 356 do you have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk356 Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20790 Posted October 21, 2023 That is a 64 sc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 21, 2023 Share #20791 Posted October 21, 2023 The 356 cars are hugely improved by fitting a Rennshift (James West engineering) fast gear change. On the original gear change like our 356 Cab B, with a 2.4 OHC Emory engine, third gear was in a different zip code from second. My brother drove my 1977 911 RSR with its Rennshift change and went straight online to get the equivalent for his 356. I think Emory now fits them as standard on his conversions. On the 911 Rennshift change for the 915C box, the gear-lever is now spring loaded, with adjustable tension to the 3/4 plane and has a choice of automatic or manual reverse lock out (I always leave mine in manual). It reduces the chance of wrong slotting to near zero. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted October 22, 2023 Share #20792 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) On 10/20/2023 at 8:42 PM, wlaidlaw said: PS The Élite bodyshells were contracted out but I cannot recall to whom. Lotus initially tried to make them but they did not pass even their sloppy QC. The first prototype shells were made apparently in-house by Lotus then subbed out to Maximar Boats (who had never made a car body before) whose work was sub-par (AFAIK they had to meet a weight limit per shell and variously "thinned" areas to meet the spec which lead to problems with rigidity.) but the number of car shells Lotus made themselves for the initial prototype series seems hard to pin down. Maximar were commissioned for 250 cars but as per the Lotus clubs register the actual number is a bit vague given the "Leica - style" overlap in production re chassis numbers where later numbers were bodied EMs (ie Elite Maximar) rather than "younger" chassis number bodied EBs (Elite Bristol). What is known is that the cars were competitive at Le Mans at the time and several cars were rebuilt to reuse chassis, engines or bodies after events to further confuse things. The second series was commissioned with Bristol Aeroplane Company (sometimes online in the US referred to as Bristol Aeroplane Plastics!) with reinforcement in the critical areas - though AFAIK some metal fittings still needed to be incorporated into the fibreglass shell for anchoring points. It is definitely a 'cherished' car for me, though with a somewhat vague timeline, but it seems very sad that given its innovative design/construction/performance that only c 1000 were built AFAIK and it remained outside the mainstream design credo for a very long time to "add lightness"... it seems astonishing to me that in a world of energy efficiency that Chapman's credo is no longer a factor when designing supposedly "efficient" EVs... Edited October 22, 2023 by NigelG Spelling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indeepthought Posted October 22, 2023 Share #20793 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) In my younger days (circa early 60’s) living in North London, I had a p/t job in a small engineering firm, we made the window frames and gear levers & I imagine a few other items for Lotus. 🍷 Edited October 22, 2023 by Indeepthought 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted October 22, 2023 Share #20794 Posted October 22, 2023 53 minutes ago, Indeepthought said: small engineering firm, I think this lies at the heart of the Chapman credo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indeepthought Posted October 23, 2023 Share #20795 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NigelG said: I think this lies at the heart of the Chapman credo Also the story of how/why Colin Chapman started using Coventry Climax engines…certainly one of the original ‘think out of the box’ guys.. 🍷 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 23, 2023 Share #20796 Posted October 23, 2023 Well, here's another, a bit more obscure than the lovely Elite. All the usuals: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4880829'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 23, 2023 Share #20797 Posted October 23, 2023 Stuart, I may be wrong but I have a feeling you have posted this one before. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted October 23, 2023 Share #20798 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) On 10/21/2023 at 1:35 PM, jk356 said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Apologies for crashing in on Stuart's post and I'm rather late to the party being on Hols with family but, just for fun (and as I simply couldn't resist), I think the previous Mystery Car is a c. 1970 - 1973 Porsche 914-4 in Signal Orange and fitted with 'Appearance Group' trim but, rather oddly, missing its lower rear valence? Anyhow; let's get back on track (although I believe Wilson's comment posted above is correct). Philip. Edited October 23, 2023 by pippy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 24, 2023 Share #20799 Posted October 24, 2023 I'll assume Wilson and Philip are correct. Here it is below - a '35 Adler Trumph Junior. BTW: Trumph is Donald Trump's real ancestral name. Anyone else want to step in? If not, I have another car ready. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4881438'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 24, 2023 Share #20800 Posted October 24, 2023 In 1935-40, Adler built a magnificent 8 wheeler saloon car, with the two pairs of front wheels turning together like an 8 wheeler truck and the rear pairs also in tandem. I am not sure if any of these survived the war. Some were delivered during the war with armoured bodywork. I am surprised AH did not use one, it would suit his ego. Below is a publicity photo from 1935. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4881470'>More sharing options...
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