dkCambridgeshire Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7821 Posted October 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) And another photo … NTC8.jpg The brass plate above the steering column is visible in this photo. Eight photos have been posted showing the car from different angles and including one engine image. Should be fairly straightforward to ascertain the actual marque from the pics and the information. dunk Information given: Country of manufacture (but did the marque rather than the car originate in that country?); types of races / tracks likely used for; hints as to vintage; type of engine i.e. it's O.H.V., 6 cylinder when maybe not so many manufacturers made that type; likely to have been fitted with non-original wheels. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.j.z Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7822 Posted October 4, 2015 McLaughlin-Buick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7823 Posted October 4, 2015 We're still with you, but not being very good detectives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7824 Posted October 4, 2015 Dunk, I have no idea which tracks are still in use but Hoosier would not be making tyres for them still if there were not some tracks still working. This is of course unless they call something else "board racing" tracks. The tyres I used to use were R: 23"OD x 13" wide fitting on a 13"Diam/14" Wide wheel and F: 21"OD x 10" wide fitting on a 13"Diam/10"Wide wheel, which are relatively modern racing car tyre dimensions. They were so thin and flexible, that they use to arrive folded up flat in a large parcel. You had to use bead screws to stop the wheels spinning round inside the tyre either on power or braking, as they run at very low pressures and are very sticky. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7825 Posted October 4, 2015 McLaughlin-Buick? Yes it's a Canadian Buick according to the owner and when entered at previous classic car events it is described as a 1918 Buick Board Racer Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ,,, and this is the brass plate attached to the interior side of the bulkhead … cropped from another photo … unfortunately I did not take a separate photo of the plate but 'Buick Racing is clearly visible. The car's racing production number is also etched onto the plate so unless the plate is a fake, the car is a racing Buick. However, last week when trying to find out more about the car, Google led me to the 'Buick Car Club Australia - NSW' where there was a hint of a 1918 Buick Speedster being documented … so I Emailed some photos of the Buick Board Racer and received the following reply: Hello Duncan, Interesting Buick, would love to know the history of this car particularly as I'm a Buick historian and just completing a book on the history of Buick in the UK and Europe, some 600 pages with lots of images. Also I had built a 1918 Buick Speedster (pictured below) some many years ago selling it into Germany over a decade back but I believe it is now in Luxembourg. The car you picture is not stock Buick. The engine block from what I can see in the photo is probably 1918 but the electrics are not Buick. The first Buick 6 was introduced in 1914 and from the start all Buick 6's were fitted with Delco starter/generator electrics that you see in my pic below. Buick had discontinued the use of magnetos before that engine was built. You say the car was road registered, I wonder how it generated electricity for the lighting as I do not see any evidence in your pic of electricity generation equipment and the headlamps do not look to be gas. The chassis from what is seen is Buick, again probably 1918, but could be 1916/17 but the wheels are not Buick original. As the chassis is RHD, I do not see this as an American race car, it is more likely that it was built from WWI surplus. Although Buicks were not imported into the UK for sale to the public during the Great War, quite a number were imported for use by the military and government departments. Having said all that it is an interesting vehicle well worthy of its preservation, particularly if it has a racing history in England because Buicks did race there including at Brooklands. I would love to see any other photos you have of the car. I will send your mail on for inclusion in our Australian monthly Buick membership magazine. Cheers, John Gerdtz Webmaster BCCA-NSW … and then after sending additional photos, but before cropping and enhancing the 'Buick Racing' brass plate photo, received the following reply: Hi Duncan, Thank you for the extra pics, they are fine at this resolution. From what I see it is based on a 1918 Buick 6, the same as the speedster I built, but I can tell you that it is not a factory built race car, there just were not any built at this time in the USA or Canada. In England GM ceased assembling Buicks early in the war 1914/15 and everything came from Canada with nothing for private sale. Buicks were again available to the public in the UK in limited volume from 1919 on after the war but our subject Buick is a pre 1919 model (they were different) this is a factory RHD chassis with non Buick modifications but still with the original remote export RHD gear change. Duncan i was born in 1936 and have been involved with early Buicks for some 50 years owning 3, still have the 1929 below. Also have been a Buick historian for many years with published material on the subject. Our subject Buick is a very well built special, probably professionally built, but not a Buick factory product. No matter it is still an interesting car. Cheers and many thank's, John So … still unsure regarding the Buick's 'board racer' description … but have also Emailed some photos and questions to the classic car event event organisers and asked if they can pass on the Email to the owner. If the owner replies I hope to establish if the Buick is in fact a former board track racer and if the brass plate is genuine. a.j.z. is the first to state 'Buick' and yes it would be a Canadian Mclaughlin Buick … the backbone of General Motors. a.j.z. thank you for the correct answer and please advise if you have the next mystery car photo ready . Best wishes dunk 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ,,, and this is the brass plate attached to the interior side of the bulkhead … cropped from another photo … unfortunately I did not take a separate photo of the plate but 'Buick Racing is clearly visible. The car's racing production number is also etched onto the plate so unless the plate is a fake, the car is a racing Buick. However, last week when trying to find out more about the car, Google led me to the 'Buick Car Club Australia - NSW' where there was a hint of a 1918 Buick Speedster being documented … so I Emailed some photos of the Buick Board Racer and received the following reply: Hello Duncan, Interesting Buick, would love to know the history of this car particularly as I'm a Buick historian and just completing a book on the history of Buick in the UK and Europe, some 600 pages with lots of images. Also I had built a 1918 Buick Speedster (pictured below) some many years ago selling it into Germany over a decade back but I believe it is now in Luxembourg. The car you picture is not stock Buick. The engine block from what I can see in the photo is probably 1918 but the electrics are not Buick. The first Buick 6 was introduced in 1914 and from the start all Buick 6's were fitted with Delco starter/generator electrics that you see in my pic below. Buick had discontinued the use of magnetos before that engine was built. You say the car was road registered, I wonder how it generated electricity for the lighting as I do not see any evidence in your pic of electricity generation equipment and the headlamps do not look to be gas. The chassis from what is seen is Buick, again probably 1918, but could be 1916/17 but the wheels are not Buick original. As the chassis is RHD, I do not see this as an American race car, it is more likely that it was built from WWI surplus. Although Buicks were not imported into the UK for sale to the public during the Great War, quite a number were imported for use by the military and government departments. Having said all that it is an interesting vehicle well worthy of its preservation, particularly if it has a racing history in England because Buicks did race there including at Brooklands. I would love to see any other photos you have of the car. I will send your mail on for inclusion in our Australian monthly Buick membership magazine. Cheers, John Gerdtz Webmaster BCCA-NSW … and then after sending additional photos, but before cropping and enhancing the 'Buick Racing' brass plate photo, received the following reply: Hi Duncan, Thank you for the extra pics, they are fine at this resolution. From what I see it is based on a 1918 Buick 6, the same as the speedster I built, but I can tell you that it is not a factory built race car, there just were not any built at this time in the USA or Canada. In England GM ceased assembling Buicks early in the war 1914/15 and everything came from Canada with nothing for private sale. Buicks were again available to the public in the UK in limited volume from 1919 on after the war but our subject Buick is a pre 1919 model (they were different) this is a factory RHD chassis with non Buick modifications but still with the original remote export RHD gear change. Duncan i was born in 1936 and have been involved with early Buicks for some 50 years owning 3, still have the 1929 below. Also have been a Buick historian for many years with published material on the subject. Our subject Buick is a very well built special, probably professionally built, but not a Buick factory product. No matter it is still an interesting car. Cheers and many thank's, John So … still unsure regarding the Buick's 'board racer' description … but have also Emailed some photos and questions to the classic car event event organisers and asked if they can pass on the Email to the owner. If the owner replies I hope to establish if the Buick is in fact a former board track racer and if the brass plate is genuine. a.j.z. is the first to state 'Buick' and yes it would be a Canadian Mclaughlin Buick … the backbone of General Motors. a.j.z. thank you for the correct answer and please advise if you have the next mystery car photo ready . Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2899005'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7826 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Dunk, I have no idea which tracks are still in use but Hoosier would not be making tyres for them still if there were not some tracks still working. This is of course unless they call something else "board racing" tracks. The tyres I used to use were R: 23"OD x 13" wide fitting on a 13"Diam/14" Wide wheel and F: 21"OD x 10" wide fitting on a 13"Diam/10"Wide wheel, which are relatively modern racing car tyre dimensions. They were so thin and flexible, that they use to arrive folded up flat in a large parcel. You had to use bead screws to stop the wheels spinning round inside the tyre either on power or braking, as they run at very low pressures and are very sticky. Wilson Thank you Wilson. I'm also intrigued as to whether board track racing continues, but if not, what constitutes a 'board racer' or 'board track' today? Maybe there's an active historical board track group in the USA? Best wishes dunk Edited October 4, 2015 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 4, 2015 Share #7827 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks Dunk! Looking for Canadian Car Manufacturers my friend G showed me a very similar car. Ok, something newer: Edited October 4, 2015 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted October 5, 2015 Share #7828 Posted October 5, 2015 Porsche 928 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 5, 2015 Share #7829 Posted October 5, 2015 Porsche 944 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilianm3 Posted October 5, 2015 Share #7830 Posted October 5, 2015 Porsche Fuchs wheels for sure, but i doubt it's a production car. Maybe the Goertz 914 prototype? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7831 Posted October 7, 2015 sorry, no Porsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7832 Posted October 7, 2015 Mazda Rotary.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7833 Posted October 7, 2015 no Mazda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7834 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Supra or Elan Edited October 7, 2015 by manoleica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7835 Posted October 7, 2015 Nissan 200SX? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7836 Posted October 7, 2015 no, more exotic from another angle: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7837 Posted October 7, 2015 Ferrari F355 dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7838 Posted October 7, 2015 no Ferrari, far more exotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7839 Posted October 7, 2015 and it is not a production car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted October 7, 2015 Share #7840 Posted October 7, 2015 Pre Production:- Koenigsegg!! // Noble!! // Panini!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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