dkCambridgeshire Posted August 27, 2013 Share #5381 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All photos taken with Leica X-Vario Wilson you are correct ... but can you guess the d.i.y. Japanese connection? Best wishes dunk Edited August 27, 2013 by dkpeterborough 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All photos taken with Leica X-Vario Wilson you are correct ... but can you guess the d.i.y. Japanese connection? Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2407029'>More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted August 27, 2013 Share #5382 Posted August 27, 2013 A Toyota Supra or Datsun 280Z 5 speed Gearbox would be my guess. That does not look like the correct position for an original Mk 2 gear lever. I used to race a Mk 1 ex works rally car (YMO 300) and the gear lever on that sprouted out of the left hand side of the tunnel. I was however using the earlier and stronger 100S Le Mans box with overdrive on 2nd, 3rd and top, giving a 7 speed box in effect but you had to have a big oil cooler for the overdrive and send it back to Laycock de Normanville every few races for a rebuild. I think the Mk 2 would normally have the cranked from the left lever the same as the standard Mk1. The Mk.3 uses a remote control shifter but that has a big chrome surround at the base of the gaiter from memory and a thick lever. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 27, 2013 Share #5383 Posted August 27, 2013 Correct ... it has a 5 speed Toyota gearbox which the owner advised is a big improvement and has transformed the car's driving. Your turn Wilson. Best wishes dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted August 28, 2013 Share #5384 Posted August 28, 2013 I thought about the reflection in the AH´s bumper (posting #5370) and indeed it was a Lancia Delta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 29, 2013 Share #5385 Posted August 29, 2013 I have tried to find something different from my usual sort of car and have been going through some of my early Leica digital shots and here we are. No it is not a Victorian railway carriage! I love the curved glass quarter lights. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2408501'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 29, 2013 Share #5386 Posted August 29, 2013 Is it some sort of omnibus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5387 Posted August 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) No just a regular if somewhat odd looking car. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5388 Posted August 30, 2013 A 1920s or prior English shooting brake - but the actual coachbuilder and chassis could be one of several. Probably large and a luxury car manufacturer's chassis. Was it built for UK use? Best wishes dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5389 Posted August 30, 2013 Does it have a centered drivers seat position? Looks like a narrow body too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5390 Posted August 30, 2013 Dunk, English might have been my first guess too but in reality is is fussier and more ornate than any English "Woodie" shooting brake I have seen. There is definitely a "fin de siecle" café feel about the coachwork but you are spot on with period. My suspicion would be that it was a body from a pre WW1 car transplanted onto a post war chassis. From memory, I think it had front wheel brakes but of course, they could have been a later addition. Here is another clip. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2409025'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5391 Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Right hand drive ... A maharaja's extravagance? Is the pipe and tap/valve part of the ornate car? The wheels look American? dunk Edited August 30, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 30, 2013 Share #5392 Posted August 30, 2013 Many European upmarket cars were made in right hand drive only up to WW2 e.g. Bugatti (which this is not). Virtually all Lancias up to 1955 were RHD and it was really only when Ferrari seriously entered the USA market, that he started to make LHD. Funnily enough, Dunk's thought about central driving position is not wholly wrong although not this particular car. Wilson PS I think the pump arrangement was the museum's fire precautions. Not american even though the wheels do look like an American Le France. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5393 Posted August 31, 2013 A very old established make of car, which finally vanished in the mid 1960's. A somewhat unlikely holder of world speed records in the 1930's and again in the 1950's. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5394 Posted August 31, 2013 Perhaps a Railton, though if I'm right I have no idea where to go from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5395 Posted August 31, 2013 Perhaps a Railton, though if I'm right I have no idea where to go from there. Railton did not make any cars in the 60s - when the mystery car disappeared. Maybe we need to consider 1 hour, and up to 24 hour distance records ... and small engine size record breakers as distinct from the outright land speed record cars? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5396 Posted August 31, 2013 Dunk, Thinking along the right lines. Railton was sold to the the Hudson company (maybe in settlement of the receivables for the chassis they supplied) just before WW2 and never went back into production afterwards apart from a couple built from spares. My first memory of a Railton is one crashing head-on on an icy road into my father's brand new Mark VII Jaguar - he was very unamused. Luckily it was all at low speed and we had already stopped when he hit us. The driver of the other car was so drunk he could not walk. My father took the distributor rotor arm out of the Railton to immobilise it and then went and reported the other driver at Beauly (of Ffordes fame) Police Station a few miles further on. My father told me when I was somewhat older, that the police had tried to dissuade him from making a formal complaint, as the owner of the Railton was "The Laird," whoever that was. My father was a Justice of the Peace (a Scottish Magistrate), so was having none of that. About 10 years ago, my neighbour in Sussex who is a good friend, called up to tell me he had just acquired a classic car and would I like to come round and look at it. He asked if I would like to take this 1935 Railton University Saloon for a drive. Oh dear! It is always difficult to be tactful, when a friend has just bought a complete pup. I suspect the chassis was either corroded away to terminal thinness or it was cracked and there was about 1/4 of a turn of slack in the steering. The oil pressure went close to zero when you put any load on the engine. The piston slap was louder than a Lederhosen festival. Luckily he is a very smart business man and had negotiated it on approval. I persuaded him to take it back asap. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5397 Posted August 31, 2013 Hotchkiss almost fits the bill but a more likely candidate is Panhard. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5398 Posted August 31, 2013 Hotchkiss almost fits the bill but a more likely candidate is Panhard. dunk Correct Dunk, I won't ask you to guess which model 1922 Panhard et Levassor, as they all look the same externally from the 4cyl 16HP up to the 35HP 8 cal, which this is. George Eyston broke the 1 hour record in his beautiful monoplace 35HP 8cyl model at Montlhery in 1932 at just over 130 MPH. This car is to be found in the Musee de l'Automobile in Mulhouse. In the 1950's Panhard broke various 1 hour and longer records in the 750 cc flat twin Deutsch et Bonnet bodied car at over 120 MPH. This rather sorry old lady was sitting in the Musee de Rochetaille for sale but with a seized clutch, back axle and brakes, there would have been few takers. With its early Knight sleeve valve 8 litre engine, this is one car you would not want to be stuck behind without a gas mask. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2409995'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5399 Posted August 31, 2013 Wilson, I have learnt a lot today investigating your clues. The car would be quite a liability. The Knight engine has an interesting history with its Daimler tweaks - I just looked it up. I'll post a photo(s) of the next car later this evening. Best wishes dunk . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 31, 2013 Share #5400 Posted August 31, 2013 Almost ready to post the next car puzzle ... should be within the next 10 minutes. It's black and chrome No clue necessary; era should be easy. Good luck ... pictures soon. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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