jsrockit Posted March 10, 2010 Share #21 Â Posted March 10, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ouch, when you put it that way stnami, I can see why your search continues... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Hi jsrockit, Take a look here Mediocrity and the X1. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
elansprint72 Posted March 10, 2010 Share #22  Posted March 10, 2010 here is no pose shot but has movement and life shot by mediocre amateur  Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. What is this supposed to illustrate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptu Posted March 11, 2010 Share #23 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. What is this supposed to illustrate? Â I was aiming to a jumping bunny rabbit but missed it and caught this one instead.. So slow camera. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 11, 2010 Share #24 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. What is this supposed to illustrate? I don't dislike this picture personally but it could have been taken with any camera. Problem with good pics they rarely show usefull things about technical qualities of the camera. Better shoot your cat at full aperture to test sharpness and bokeh. Mediocrity is in the eye of the beholder anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted March 11, 2010 Share #25 Â Posted March 11, 2010 At least Stnami's post is prove that the X1 is a useful "self-portrait":p camera. Might it be class leading in this area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted March 11, 2010 Share #26 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Funny, whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture. Â When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it." Â When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault. Â Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptu Posted March 11, 2010 Share #27 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Funny,whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture. When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it." When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault. Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. I agree to camera does not make better photographer, good camera helps making technically better pictures. Bad camera can also record good images. I am pretty happy with this shot (sorry about the link but I am at work and photo at home) and it is taken with Nokia N78. But that is my opinion about the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 11, 2010 Share #28 Â Posted March 11, 2010 ptu, that's a good camera phone shot, but if you made that with the X1, it isn't good enough. Â (joking!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan States Posted March 11, 2010 Share #29  Posted March 11, 2010 yep nothing like it pictures of a camera .............. ahh well I I will have to search else where  This only proves it is a true Leica....the M on flikr images are similarly hilarious.  You didn't buy a Leica expecting it to make you a better photographer did you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 11, 2010 Share #30 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Funny,whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture. Â When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it." Â When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault. Â Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. Â Well I certainly don't !! I've had lots of fun using pinhole and old box cameras lately - the box camera results are quite amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted March 11, 2010 Share #31 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Quoting someone: Anyone out there with links where the photographer pushes the metal to the floor with this camera. All I have seen is fill conceived family snaps and still scenes devoid of life. Â There was an Italian photographer who, a few years ago, was highlighted in DigitalJournalist for his use of Olympus point-and-shoots in a war zone - perfectly illustrating the timeless adage that its not what you use, it's what you do with it. Â Did Grandma say that? Â The X1 belongs to a genus. Compacts cannot easily escape the limitations of contrast AF, unless you are Panasonic, and professional TV or indie movie cameramen will know what that means. Â Turning the argument on its head (the best bullshit detector there is) why has Canon, another massively experienced, multi-format imaging company, which can meet any need of the video journalist (it is Panasonic's main rival in the moving image field) failed to advance beyond pedestrian point-and-shoots (and I include the G11 in that description)? Â Clearly it doesn't WANT to. Â Leica clearly does. Â Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 12, 2010 Share #32 Â Posted March 12, 2010 You didn't buy a Leica expecting it to make you a better photographer did you? Dan unfortunately I didn't buy it for the same reasons as your expectations of leica as you state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 12, 2010 Share #33 Â Posted March 12, 2010 Alex Majoli Rob Galbraith DPI: Alex Majoli points and shoots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptu Posted March 12, 2010 Share #34 Â Posted March 12, 2010 ptu, that's a good camera phone shot, but if you made that with the X1, it isn't good enough. (joking!) Â Joking?! No really?! Â I agree that id that picture would have been from X1, I or X1 would have done something badly wrong. But it was not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcam Posted March 12, 2010 Share #35 Â Posted March 12, 2010 Imants- Jim Radcliffe over at dpr will be trying out an X1 for a few days and post his results and thoughts. He seems to be quite the master of small cameras with impressive results. It may not be your style of photography but you may be able to extrapolate his findings into something worthwhile for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 12, 2010 Share #36 Â Posted March 12, 2010 Though Jim is good at his craft he is very much a calculating photographer and is not prone to spontaneity and working in iffy conditions. The camera will produce technically great images in controlled situations and that is evident. The problem is that as soon as it is taken out of that zone the results that I have seen are quite poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted March 13, 2010 Share #37  Posted March 13, 2010 I'm not sure this will change your opinion about the X1, actually, I'm pretty sure it's not going to. But for what it's worth, here are two photos I took recently. For me and my ability, the camera is excellent.  http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/118937-mermaid-lamp-x1.html  http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/118936-elvis-x1.html  If the photos are lacking, it is definitely because of the photographer (me) and not because the camera cannot perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEBnewyork Posted March 13, 2010 Share #38 Â Posted March 13, 2010 Imants - Here is one of my X1 "action" shots for you.... Â Blipfoto :: Daily Vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduardoho Posted March 13, 2010 Share #39  Posted March 13, 2010 here is photo in mediocrity with my x1...@f2.8 (1/15) ISO3200. Hand held (but breathless ...aaaaaaa) ...moonless nite. What happened to remote control like those in minZoom film p&s? cleverly useful for timed shots. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114955-mediocrity-and-the-x1/?do=findComment&comment=1258033'>More sharing options...
michaelbrenner Posted March 13, 2010 Share #40 Â Posted March 13, 2010 here is photo in mediocrity with my x1...@f2.8 (1/15) ISO3200. Hand held (but breathless ...) ...moonless nite. What happened to remote control like those in minZoom film p&s? Â *Hand-held* -- the idea that the camera can get a *hand-held* shot like that is very impressive! Of course I'm sure the operator had a thing or to do with it as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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