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Mediocrity and the X1

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lct

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Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. What is this supposed to illustrate?

I don't dislike this picture personally but it could have been taken with any camera. Problem with good pics they rarely show usefull things about technical qualities of the camera. Better shoot your cat at full aperture to test sharpness and bokeh. Mediocrity is in the eye of the beholder anyway.

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mhoersch

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Funny,

whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture.

 

When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it."

 

When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault.

 

Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. :rolleyes::D

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Funny,

whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture.

When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it."

When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault.

Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. :rolleyes::D

I agree to camera does not make better photographer, good camera helps making technically better pictures. Bad camera can also record good images.

I am pretty happy with this shot (sorry about the link but I am at work and photo at home) and it is taken with Nokia N78. But that is my opinion about the picture.

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Dan States

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yep nothing like it pictures of a camera .............. ahh well I I will have to search else where

 

This only proves it is a true Leica....the M on flikr images are similarly hilarious.

 

You didn't buy a Leica expecting it to make you a better photographer did you?

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earleygallery

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Funny,

whenever there is a shot that everyone agrees is really great photography, and it was made with a simple and/or cheap camera, then everyone maintains that it's always the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture.

 

When the same great shot was made with a hideously expensive camera that practically nobody can afford, everybody says: "Well, sure, with t h a t kind of camera anyone can make a great photograph. Even I could do it."

 

When people using the simple and/or cheap camera post crappy family and pet shots, it simply m u s t be the camera's fault.

 

Now, all this seems to prove something, only I don't know what, exactly. :rolleyes::D

 

Well I certainly don't !! I've had lots of fun using pinhole and old box cameras lately - the box camera results are quite amazing.

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markgay

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Quoting someone: Anyone out there with links where the photographer pushes the metal to the floor with this camera. All I have seen is fill conceived family snaps and still scenes devoid of life.

 

There was an Italian photographer who, a few years ago, was highlighted in DigitalJournalist for his use of Olympus point-and-shoots in a war zone - perfectly illustrating the timeless adage that its not what you use, it's what you do with it.

 

Did Grandma say that? ;)

 

The X1 belongs to a genus. Compacts cannot easily escape the limitations of contrast AF, unless you are Panasonic, and professional TV or indie movie cameramen will know what that means.

 

Turning the argument on its head (the best bullshit detector there is) why has Canon, another massively experienced, multi-format imaging company, which can meet any need of the video journalist (it is Panasonic's main rival in the moving image field) failed to advance beyond pedestrian point-and-shoots (and I include the G11 in that description)?

 

Clearly it doesn't WANT to.

 

Leica clearly does.

 

Regards,

Mark

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Guest stnami

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You didn't buy a Leica expecting it to make you a better photographer did you?

Dan unfortunately I didn't buy it for the same reasons as your expectations of leica as you state.
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ptu

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ptu, that's a good camera phone shot, but if you made that with the X1, it isn't good enough.

(joking!)

 

Joking?! No really?! ;)

 

I agree that id that picture would have been from X1, I or X1 would have done something badly wrong. But it was not.

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carcam

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Imants- Jim Radcliffe over at dpr will be trying out an X1 for a few days and post his results and thoughts. He seems to be quite the master of small cameras with impressive results. It may not be your style of photography but you may be able to extrapolate his findings into something worthwhile for you.

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Though Jim is good at his craft he is very much a calculating photographer and is not prone to spontaneity and working in iffy conditions. The camera will produce technically great images in controlled situations and that is evident. The problem is that as soon as it is taken out of that zone the results that I have seen are quite poor

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ezc203

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I'm not sure this will change your opinion about the X1, actually, I'm pretty sure it's not going to. But for what it's worth, here are two photos I took recently. For me and my ability, the camera is excellent.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/118937-mermaid-lamp-x1.html

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/118936-elvis-x1.html

 

If the photos are lacking, it is definitely because of the photographer (me) and not because the camera cannot perform.

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eduardoho

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here is photo in mediocrity with my x1...@f2.8 (1/15) ISO3200. Hand held (but breathless ...aaaaaaa) ...moonless nite. What happened to remote control like those in minZoom film p&s? cleverly useful for timed shots.

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michaelbrenner

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here is photo in mediocrity with my x1...@f2.8 (1/15) ISO3200. Hand held (but breathless ...) ...moonless nite. What happened to remote control like those in minZoom film p&s?

 

*Hand-held* -- the idea that the camera can get a *hand-held* shot like that is very impressive! Of course I'm sure the operator had a thing or to do with it as well...;)

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