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Just uploaded a new page about shooting with the Leica M9 in New York where we had a dedicated group of Leica shooters assembled the last few days

 

leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Leica M9 Digital Rangefinder Camera - Page 11: The Leica M9 in New York City and Brooklyn

 

Also a few 800 ISO shots and some advice on how to shoot people.

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"What do you think of the Leica M9..?

I get that from quite many people. Of course when I did the seminar at B&H where there was more than hundred photo enthusiasts in the room. But also from airline captains stopping me in the airport, people approaching you in a restaurant. Some are on the waiting list, some are just interested, others again want to hear if they are missing out because they don't believe they will ever be able to afford one. It always strike me as odd that people with a Canon or Nikon and ten or more lenses for that think of the Leica M9 as the dream camera they will never get. At least till I realized that quite many Leica shooters mostly use one lens, whereas it's implied that you as a dSLR user buy all the lenses.

So of course, if you sit with your ten Canon L lenses and look in the Leica price list to see what a similar set cost of Leica, it will add up to an impressive amount.

On the other hand, those who have seen the light and now have the Leica M9 and one or a few lenses seem happy about the simlicity and the opportunity to focus on actual photography. In any case, that is the only explanation I have been abe to come up with for why some see a Leica M9 as more expensive than a ambitious dSLR kit."

 

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I'm sorry but this is flat out ridiculous, why come down hard and snooty on people who have a great camera system and don't want to spend 4K a piece on lenses and 7K on a body and say "For those who have seen the light"?

 

I just got done doing an assignment in which I shot my new Nikon 50mm1.4 G on my D700 and F100 with Kodachrome. Do you know what that $400 lens does? It gives my Leica 50mm 1.4 Asph a *serious* run for the money. I'm shocked at how good it is wide open, digital or film.

 

One well known Leica shooter just got done with an assignment in South America, he had GF-1, M9 and D700. While he said the M9 made him want to go out and shoot, he called the D700 a real worker, not slow like the M9 in which he stated you shoot 6 pictures in a row and then have no camera, slow.

 

I'm all for the M9 next year when I plan on getting one, but this, dude, it is off putting to say the least and I see not a single image in your M9 post that rocks that Leica look.

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Thanks Thorsten for your new page, I am always excited to see your new pages. :)

 

@KM-25: I think you have misconstrued what Throsten was simply saying that "seeing the light" was about the Leica system while being as fantastic as Canon or Nikon systems, but it rocks because of its simplicity and light weight! That's all and how I understood it.

 

I too shoot the D700 with big and heavy glass and love it, and then there are times I just grab the M9 with my 50cron and feel completely liberted from the weight since that will be all that I am carrying... I guess that's how I am relating to the comments Thorsten had written.

 

I look forward to seeing that Leica look next year from you! :)

 

 

 

 

Pophoto

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I agree with Thorsten. A Leica M is not just a SLR camera without the SLR part. It is a completely different KIND of photography. Sorry if I keep harping on this.

 

We do not walk around searching for pictures while looking through various lenses. We put a (say) 35mm lens on the camera, then we put on '35mm eyes' and we find the pictures before we even raise the camera. OK, most of us have caught the bug and own a selection of lenses of various focal lengths. But I could be happy with just the classical three: 35, 50 and 90mm.

 

The old man from the Age of Henri and the Boys

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Should I also post in the M8 forum every time I use that camera and put an image on my website?

 

If you think it will be of interest to anyone, why not give it a try?

 

I’m glad to be kept up-to-date with developments on Thorsten’s site. It’s an extremely informative and enjoyable resource.

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I hope that this message board will encourage more comments from the pros (like Thorsten). Their experience adds immeasurable value here.

 

I would guess that even HCB in his time had discouragers. Thankfully if so he ignored them. I would hope that the pros continue their fine work and continue to share their insights here.

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I hope that this message board will encourage more comments from the pros (like Thorsten). Their experience adds immeasurable value here.

 

 

+1

 

A refreshing change from all the brooding, complaining and whining.

Now come the flames.......

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Looks like you all had really great fun and I wish I could have participated.

 

Your whole site is wonderful but I am sorry to say that the top image with the two characters in the Dean & Deluca shop window is a real miss in my pov. Why did you focus on the letters instead of the extraordinary characters? Birgit followed you btw.:(

 

Regards

Steve

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Thanks for the candle lights and all ;-)

 

I don't have anything against a dSLR, the point is that Leica is perceived as "out of my range" by some and it is simply not true. And as for "we who have seen the light" photography is about light and nothing else. Which is why one camera with the few buttons to control just that and a lens that can capture light rays truthfully so it is almost a piece of art in itself ... it's just a miracle compared to the weight, complexity and size of a dSLR kit. And I hear that from several, and I hear it more than I would have thought it mattered; that it's a freedom to have that simplicity and freedom to carry a camera all day which you have with a Leica M.

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I was one of Thorsten's students during the NY seminar. On our walkabout we spent the better part of a full day walking around the city looking at things, photographing, stopping for coffee or food, and just generally doing the street photography thing. All of us carried Leicas or similar small, unobtrusive cameras. Even walking around as a loosely strung gaggle, what was remarkable was how little attention people paid us.

 

Simple, small, and light - that philosophical divide that Thorsten speaks to - is an advantage not just to the photographer (and what he has to schlep around), but also to how he is perceived.

 

Not that you can't get terrific images with a big DSLR - most of us have one of those systems as well, after all. But that the Leica ethos has its own undeniable strengths.

 

 

BTW, I highly recommend Thorsten's seminars to any of you who get the chance...

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Lovely images and great article, Thorsten. I have to ask what that lens is in your first bw image (2nd one in the set, man holding camera in hand)?

 

It looks like a new 35 summilux asph, but I may be wrong.

 

Regardless, I was in NYC last May, and I had a wonderful time with my M8. I am itching to go back, and your series brings it closer to home! Lovely!

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