New Summarit 50mm on the M8

[mzcloud]

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Point taken! good glass is good glass.

 

However this thread was about the new Summarit 50mm.

 

I think he meant summarit 50/2.5 and not 50/2

[lct]

These pictures have been taken with M8 and Summilux 50/1.4 asph, summarit 50/2 and summilus 50mm/1.4 pre-asph mellenium. F2.8

...Full resolution images are here: lenses - a set on Flickr

Good idea thanks but i can't seem to find out your full resolution images. Could you provide another link? Also i guess you mean Summarit 50/2.5, not Summicron 50/2 right?

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[sbelyaev]

Yes, I meant Summarit 50/2.5.

I modified my privacy settings so that the full resolution images became accessible.

[lct]

...I modified my privacy settings so that the full resolution images became accessible.

Thank you much. I have no experience of the Millenium. Must be close to the regular 11868 i guess. I don't know the Summarit either but i would say:

1st pic: Summarit

2nd pic: Summilux asph

3rd pic: Summilux pre-asph

[sbelyaev]

Very close..)

1st - Summilux pre-asph

2nd - Asph

3rd - Summarit

 

The images look practically the same. Minimal differences in overall color balance are, most likely, due to inconsistent M8's white balance and exposure. When it comes to resolution, DOF, overall look and bokeh @ f2.8, all three lenses produce images of the same quality.

 

Presently I use M8 for color photography less frequently due to its color shift issues (I much prefer Olympus E-3 colors), poor jpeg processing and rough handling of highlights, but when I use it, I use it with Summarit.

[lct]

I hesitated between the Summarit and the Pre-asph Lux but i seemed to recognise the somewhat harsher bokeh of the 50/1.4 asph. I was told that the Summarit has a smoother one. Happy to see that it is true.

[lct]

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Crops of your pics if you don't mind:

 

 

 

[Logic108]

Interesting test. A lot of times with tests I cannot see a real difference but this time I can. Much prefer the 50mm ASPH.

[mzcloud]

I cannot see any differences, maybes its just my eyes. They all look identical...

[steinzeug]

I cannot see any differences, maybes its just my eyes. They all look identical...

 

 

Agree, both resolution/sharpness and colour sat seem pretty much identical

 

= this must mean that either

these lenses are far better than the M8 sensor is capable of showing

or, at 2.8 the lenses perform as well as each other

Edited March 22, 2010 by steinzeug

[sbelyaev]

Thank you. I don't mind.)

 

My point is that Summarit should not be treated as a second class lens. It is slower, less expensive, but even wide opened it is as good as any much more expensive leica's lenses.

[Redridge]

Thank you. I don't mind.)

 

My point is that Summarit should not be treated as a second class lens. It is slower, less expensive, but even wide opened it is as good as any much more expensive leica's lenses.

 

+1, the Summarit performs up there with the big boys. Forget what Ken R says about it.

[photoshutter]

That why I sold Summicron.

[Jeff S]

Thanks for all the great answers!

 

Found this too:

 

Summarit05082007

 

but once again the quality differences between the summarits and the crons are only hinted at, but never really explained in practice

Still would be great to hear opnions from more Summarit-50 users, especially those who know their crons and M8´s!

 

Your link to Puts' article does not appear to have the more recent section. Note the added information and the verdict at bottom here...Summarit range

 

Jeff

[steinzeug]

Your link to Puts' article does not appear to have the more recent section. Note the added information and the verdict at bottom here...Summarit range

 

Jeff

 

Thanks Jeff.

 

Difficult to really know what exactly what Puts means when he says:

Optically the Summarit 50mm is a bit restrained by the drive for compactness: a classical double-gauss design may pose its own challenges when one wishes to create a short optical cell.

Since starting this thread I have bought myself a Summarit 2.5/50 and I am very very happy with it. I havn´t had a chance to use it that much, but apart from its great build quality and compactness and easy focusing, it also has an endearing image quality, colour and bokeh are very natural and its sharp (but in a different/hard to pin-point way to the Summicron)

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Edited March 23, 2010 by steinzeug

[giordano]

Difficult to really know what exactly what Puts means when he says:

Optically the Summarit 50mm is a bit restrained by the drive for compactness: a classical double-gauss design may pose its own challenges when one wishes to create a short optical cell.

 

It seems perfectly clear to me. He's already made it clear that for all round optical performance he thinks the Summarit is as good as the Summicron. In the passage you quote he's just making the uncontroversial point that if they had made the Summarit bigger they could have made it even better - but more expensive.

[steinzeug]

It seems perfectly clear to me. He's already made it clear that for all round optical performance he thinks the Summarit is as good as the Summicron. In the passage you quote he's just making the uncontroversial point that if they had made the Summarit bigger they could have made it even better - but more expensive.

 

 

Thankyou for the clarification.

Edited March 23, 2010 by steinzeug