Overgaard Posted February 23, 2010 Share #21 Posted February 23, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) It might be more money than the average holiday camera. But the Leica M9 ranges in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1Ds Mark III range in term of ambitions. Quite many get those as well for fun or work. I don't think it's a lot of money or expensive. Not many professionals can get a kit to perform their profession for so little as photographers can. A carpenter will have to buy more gear, plus a van, to perform his work. A dentist a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted February 23, 2010 Share #22 Posted February 23, 2010 But, dentists do their work for fun too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted February 23, 2010 Share #23 Posted February 23, 2010 But, dentists do their work for fun too... and pay for their M9 in one day's work ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjr Posted February 23, 2010 Share #24 Posted February 23, 2010 Somebody I know spends £2500 membership a year to hit a small hard ball with a stick or various sticks to what to me is one of the most boring and tedious ways to waste an afternoon or day. Tell you man...it makes the Leica look cheap. But this is my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesbert Posted February 23, 2010 Share #25 Posted February 23, 2010 It might be more money than the average holiday camera. But the Leica M9 ranges in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1Ds Mark III range in term of ambitions. Quite many get those as well for fun or work. I don't think it's a lot of money or expensive. Not many professionals can get a kit to perform their profession for so little as photographers can. A carpenter will have to buy more gear, plus a van, to perform his work. A dentist a lot more. well said. as a working professional photographer a well paid one ot two day's job is needed to get your investment back. 6000 for a camera, which will be replaced after 36 months with the newer model might still be worth 3000, if you sell it. I am paid shooting about 100 days a year, multiplied by three, that is a tenner for every working day for the latest and greatest gear. I spend more on food than that! the camera usually is one of the cheaper bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyt Posted February 23, 2010 Share #26 Posted February 23, 2010 persuade your wife to get a horse.... 10 grand on a camera is peanuts compared to buying & keeping one of those hairy beasts. And fewer vets bills too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 23, 2010 Share #27 Posted February 23, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) and pay for their M9 in one day's work ... If that were only true... Don't confuse turnover with profit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted February 23, 2010 Share #28 Posted February 23, 2010 I took some quite famous photos with very cheap cameras. Now I get my due rewards selling those (plus I bought all of my lenses pre-digital at what now seem like bargain basement prices). And at close to $30/roll for film, processing, scanning I think I've already just paid off a good portion of the M9! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted February 23, 2010 Share #29 Posted February 23, 2010 I actually ask myself the same thing as the OP each time I see a multi-million $ yacht, and since there's a lot of those around here, it happens a lot. It's all relative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted February 23, 2010 Share #30 Posted February 23, 2010 How do people manage? They just do. Why? Because they want too. Don't confuse "need" with "want". -Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted February 24, 2010 Share #31 Posted February 24, 2010 1. there's a lot more rich people around than people think. 2. if you want something, you'll find a way to afford it 3. you'd be surprised how much money is wasted on chips, rubbish food, soft drinks and eating out. cut that out, and you'd be surprised how much money is saved. these are un-essential expensese. common sense really. not saying because your lifestyle includes these dietry habbits, you won't be able to afford an m9, just saying, there are a lot of ways to cut unnecessary expenses and to gather funds over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted February 24, 2010 Share #32 Posted February 24, 2010 Obligatory Ken Rockwell reference: How to Afford Anything That should stir things up a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ccmsosse Posted February 24, 2010 Share #33 Posted February 24, 2010 And for enthusiasts how did you even manage to justify stumping up the spoondoolies? It's all about the love for the camera. Nothing I have ever owned compares to this device. I don't drive a fancy car, own a fancy watch, have a fancy house or any memberships at all. I have never spent any significant amount of money on myself; so the M9 was a well overdue treat. I always dreamed of a Leica and always settled for less... and always regretted not having one too. With the full-frame sensor it was a no-brainer. I will worry about the costs and payments later. Now is about today, fun, joy, photography - tomorrow is another day .... I may not live to see anyways. So I got the M9 - AND LOVE IT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtaylor Posted February 24, 2010 Share #34 Posted February 24, 2010 It might be more money than the average holiday camera. But the Leica M9 ranges in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1Ds Mark III range in term of ambitions. Quite many get those as well for fun or work. I don't think it's a lot of money or expensive. Not many professionals can get a kit to perform their profession for so little as photographers can. A carpenter will have to buy more gear, plus a van, to perform his work. A dentist a lot more. Very interesting way of thinking about it. As a "hobby," I have renovated many houses, down to the studs. I have far more in carpentry and woodworking gear than camera equipment (hard to believe), but have paid it off many times over through what I have turned on the homes I have renovated and sold. I still renovate, retire in three years and will build my dream home, all with this equipment that is long paid for. What I learned long ago, if you can, buy the best. I did with wood working equipment (Festool, Delta, etc.), and my grandchildren will probably be using it . And I get to use it in the interium... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted February 24, 2010 Share #35 Posted February 24, 2010 You back into it. Somewhere along the line, while shooting SLR/DSLR gear, you step up to a high-end amateur or low-end pro body. You never thought you'd ever spend that much. But you do. And, hey, you discover it wasn't so bad. Then all your lenses get a makeover, with the pro-grade glass slowly eclipsing those slow consumer zooms you used to shoot with. It takes awhile. But one day you realize "wow, I've really got some really nice gear." Then the Leica bug bites. If you're lucky, it happened during the days of film, when an M body didn't wreck your checkbook quite so badly. You buy one Leica lens. Then a few months, or a year later, another. You know you're not in Kansas anymore when you start thinking of a $2K+ Summicron as Leica's "value" line. Digital just makes it all worse. Medium format quality. Instant gratification. And a digital M is so fine, it's just hard to describe. Like falling in love, all over again. Once you've quaffed the whole cup of Lecia kool-aid, you can never go back. You're done. Doesn't matter then what the new M9 (or M10, or whatever) costs. You have to have it. Then it's just a matter of prioritizing everything else so you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyboy Posted February 24, 2010 Share #36 Posted February 24, 2010 I work in the film industry, we use a mix of film cameras depending on the job, the most common being models like an Arri 535/435 35mm. They go upwards of $250,000 Aud body only. EUCAM Film & Video Equipment GmbH[pointer]=0&tx_cdcatalog_pi1[showUid]=3701&tx_cdcatalog_pi1 =5 Then you've got lenses in the 10's of thousands and upwards to $60,000 for one we used recently. I figured a $7000 US body and a few lenses are the daily rental rate of these film cameras. So when put in those terms it's a bargain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 24, 2010 Share #37 Posted February 24, 2010 I had the lenses anyway, which I suppose helps when it comes to looking at the overall cost of an M9. But since I stopped using film my bank balance is a lot healthier as well. In amateur mode I used to shoot a mimimum of four rolls of slide per week, and with film cost and processing at a pro lab I'd be spending at least £25. Thats around £1250 per year minimum and not even factoring in the time spent scanning these films before anything could be done with the image. On that basis I could use the M9 for four years and throw it away and I wouldn't be any worse off than I was, yet it would still have a secondhand value. So for me an M9 is cheaper than film. Or at least if anybody asks thats what I say.... Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per P. Posted February 24, 2010 Share #38 Posted February 24, 2010 Fortunately you don't need a Leica, or indeed a M9, to enjoy photography and to make memorable pictures. But if the bug bites then Prioritisation and Patience will get you there. Good negotiation skills helps - and flowers are a minor but important additional cost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDK Posted February 24, 2010 Share #39 Posted February 24, 2010 I really don't get this need to justify every single purchase?! Why the requirement to make a Leica, or indeed any other expensive item pay for itself? You don't buy a newspaper or coffee thinking about how to get it to pay for itself! If you want something and can afford it then just buy it and enjoy it, if not then don't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted February 24, 2010 Share #40 Posted February 24, 2010 Worked my a__ off as a lawyer with nearly 40 years of many many 60 hr weeks but was well compensated. My photography is a necessary escape. I consider it a medical necessity. Now I'm getting close to retirement and looking forward to more time behind the camera. I don't have any other habit as expensive (not counting driving decent but not exotic cars) and I have a wife who, whenever I mention I am thinking of buying something, says "breaking the news, eh? Go for it. You deserve it". So I am lucky in many ways. 8-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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