leicashot Posted June 4, 2010 Share #61 Posted June 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) leicashot, I don't have my X1 with me right now... but, I believe the round eyepiece comes out past the back of the camera. That is ideal and much easier to see than the Voigtlander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsrockit Posted June 7, 2010 Share #62 Posted June 7, 2010 That is ideal and much easier to see than the Voigtlander Yes, it does come out past the back of the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglasco Posted June 8, 2010 Share #63 Posted June 8, 2010 Just had my Voigtlander finder delivered today its well worth the money. I wanted the Leica one but it should have been a lot cheaper considering it is mainly plastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted June 8, 2010 Share #64 Posted June 8, 2010 I'm of the opinion that plastic doesn't exactly equal bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglasco Posted June 8, 2010 Share #65 Posted June 8, 2010 I agee with what you say, but it is cheaper to manufacture with plastic and I just feel that should be reflected in the price a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted June 8, 2010 Share #66 Posted June 8, 2010 Price for VC has just gone up $20...probably due to this thread and others like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted June 8, 2010 Share #67 Posted June 8, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Greaaaat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted June 9, 2010 Share #68 Posted June 9, 2010 I'm glad someone brought up both the back protrusion and the AF light's viewability in conjunction with the viewfinder. Looking at pictures of the Leica VF and the Voigt VF the Leica definitely protrudes back form the camera while the Voigt is flush with the camera. Also, the Voigt has a much smaller viewing hole while the Leica has a much larger one. Is it too hard to view through the Voigt viewfinder since it's flush? Are you able to see the AF light? Anyone with both it'd be really useful to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted June 9, 2010 Share #69 Posted June 9, 2010 I'm glad someone brought up both the back protrusion and the AF light's viewability in conjunction with the viewfinder. Looking at pictures of the Leica VF and the Voigt VF the Leica definitely protrudes back form the camera while the Voigt is flush with the camera. Also, the Voigt has a much smaller viewing hole while the Leica has a much larger one. Is it too hard to view through the Voigt viewfinder since it's flush? Are you able to see the AF light? Anyone with both it'd be really useful to hear your thoughts. Thanks. From my points above I was stating that the voigtlander isn't as good in usability. It's hotshoe is smaller and sits forward in the hotshoe with a gap behind it, making it NOT sit flush, but too far forward on the hotshoe. The Leica nad Olympus are better because they stick out so your nose isn't pushed so hard against the screen, and therefor the AF light is much easier to see. In daylight the AF light using the voigtlander can be tricky to spot. Hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.w Posted June 9, 2010 Share #70 Posted June 9, 2010 You can hear/feel from the camera's internal processes when the focus has locked. I stopped looking for that green light the day after I got the camera. I've tried both finders and would have no problem using either, but the Voigtländer is clearer, brighter, smaller, better-built and less then half the price. For me at least it was a no-brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted June 9, 2010 Share #71 Posted June 9, 2010 You can hear/feel from the camera's internal processes when the focus has locked. I stopped looking for that green light the day after I got the camera. I've tried both finders and would have no problem using either, but the Voigtländer is clearer, brighter, smaller, better-built and less then half the price. For me at least it was a no-brainer. Yes the VC is still a great finder and probably my preference still, but you're not always going to hear the AF in noisy environments and even with AF confirmation, it's never 100%, even with my D3s. There's always room for error, except with an 'M'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted June 9, 2010 Share #72 Posted June 9, 2010 I agee with what you say, but it is cheaper to manufacture with plastic and I just feel that should be reflected in the price a bit. I agree, but Leica doesn't do good deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted June 9, 2010 Share #73 Posted June 9, 2010 I agree, but Leica doesn't do good deals. Never have, never will, compared to say Canon. But Mercedes and BMW will also never do the same compared to a Toyota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris M Posted June 10, 2010 Share #74 Posted June 10, 2010 Never have, never will, compared to say Canon. But Mercedes and BMW will also never do the same compared to a Toyota. I just bought a brand new TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 2010, $80,000.00 large with rims plus tax, and your absolutely rite, I would never buy a beamer or benz for light off road or heavy towing, Toyota hit it spot on with this one;) I love it. chris m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted June 11, 2010 Share #75 Posted June 11, 2010 From my points above I was stating that the voigtlander isn't as good in usability. It's hotshoe is smaller and sits forward in the hotshoe with a gap behind it, making it NOT sit flush, but too far forward on the hotshoe. The Leica nad Olympus are better because they stick out so your nose isn't pushed so hard against the screen, and therefor the AF light is much easier to see. In daylight the AF light using the voigtlander can be tricky to spot. Hope this helps How hard would it be to add an item a couple millimeters wide to the front of the voigtlander hotshoe so that it would sit back past the back of the camera? Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted June 11, 2010 Share #76 Posted June 11, 2010 You can hear/feel from the camera's internal processes when the focus has locked. I stopped looking for that green light the day after I got the camera. I've tried both finders and would have no problem using either, but the Voigtländer is clearer, brighter, smaller, better-built and less then half the price. For me at least it was a no-brainer. Good to hear this. How do you think the Voigt VF could be moved back just a bit for better usability? Can it be in the hotshoe without being pushed forward all the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidhunternyc Posted June 11, 2010 Share #77 Posted June 11, 2010 This discussion is giving me a headache. : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted June 11, 2010 Share #78 Posted June 11, 2010 I just bought a brand new TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 2010, $80,000.00 large with rims plus tax, and your absolutely rite, I would never buy a beamer or benz for light off road or heavy towing, Toyota hit it spot on with this one;) I love it. chris m. Nothing against Toyota (so long as you keep your feet clear of the gas pedal) but have you ever tried a Mercedes G-Wagen? Your rite? Rite of passage? I reckon the Voigtländer is excellent quality. The brand really does deserve an umlaut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted June 11, 2010 Share #79 Posted June 11, 2010 Good to hear this. How do you think the Voigt VF could be moved back just a bit for better usability? Can it be in the hotshoe without being pushed forward all the way? Yes sure it could but unless its attached to the other piece it could easily fall off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted June 11, 2010 Share #80 Posted June 11, 2010 Yes sure it could but unless its attached to the other piece it could easily fall off It's held in by the lip and it has a tight fit I thought (I'm still waiting for my X1 but already have received the Voigt VF based on reviews here, but before your critique). So is it possible to either: 1) Not push forward all the way in the hotshoe or 2) Add some sort of mass to the front of the hotshoe either on the X1 or the VF so it can't push forward all the way. One more thing- I noticed it doesn't have a rubber end like the Leica. I'm not putting my glasses against that. Perhaps I could lightly paint a layer of plasti-dip on it or add a thin rubber washer? Any other ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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