Grigorij Posted January 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) 60th Anniversary of People's Republic of China. Terrible! Trzy limitowane Leiki - Optyczne.pl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Hi Grigorij, Take a look here LEICA supports the China government!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
regedit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 20, 2010 why?! the article seems very interesting ... but is in polish?! at least try a link with automatic google translation ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigorij Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted January 20, 2010 I'm from Poland - Jestem z Polski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierovitch Posted January 20, 2010 Share #4 Posted January 20, 2010 Will it be a better collectors investment than a Shanghai Red Flag 20? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_K Posted January 20, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 20, 2010 Hmm ... I guess they must have a lot of M8.2 overstock to try getting rid of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 20, 2010 Share #6 Posted January 20, 2010 This thread likely headed to Barnack's Bar - or at least the Customer Forum, since it includes the film MP product as well as the M8.2 - due to the probable political tilt. Grogorij, I assume you are old enough that you spent part of your life in Poland while it was still under Russian/Soviet domination? If so, I understand your - concern - regarding a link between Leica and the last major nominally-Communist regime. And one that does not hold a stellar human rights record regardless of the specfic ideology behind it. OTOH, a great many photographers who use Leica as a tool have visited the People's Republic over the decades - Marc Riboud and Henri Cartier-Bresson among them. Magnumphotos photo-eye | Auctions Amazon.com: Marc Riboud in China (9780810944305): Marc Riboud: Books SITE DU PHOTOGRAPHE MARC RIBOUD As well as miscellaneous other Magnum photographers... Magnumphotos From a more mercenary point of view - China, and Asia in general, are already the fastest growing market region for Leica. I guess, if Leica MUST produce commemorative models, then playing to that market is logical. To borrow from Lenin, "The capitalists will sell us the cameras with which we will photograph their hangings." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted January 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) There was a program on TV last night about Shanghai, quite amazing to see how much development is going on there and the affluent lifestyles many are leading. The Rolls Royce showroom there was empty - apparently they can't get enough cars to fulfill demand to have any left as 'stock' ! Why shouldn't Leica take advantage of this demand for prestige western goods? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigorij Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted January 20, 2010 adan, I'm 47 years old and more than half of my life i spent in communist Country, so maybe I am queasy... But I wonder, what will happen next, what the Leica will celebrate, maybe anniversary of the Soviet Union or anniversary of Fascism? Perhaps Stalin's or Kim Ir Sen's birthday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitom Posted January 20, 2010 Share #9 Posted January 20, 2010 60th Anniversary of People's Republic of China.Terrible! Trzy limitowane Leiki - Optyczne.pl Hello, for these who are not from poland, look here to understand: Google Nachricht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted January 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2010 This is beyond the pale. A grave error of judgement. Blood cameras. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted January 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 21, 2010 Hello,for these who are not from poland, look here to understand: Google Nachricht "Three Limited Leica - To celebrate the 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China has prepared a limited-edition Leica Camera Leica D-Lux 4, Leica M8.2 Leica MP and 50mm. Products has been engraved on a commemorative emblem depicting Tiananmen Square." One question. Will the Leica Passport Warranty apply if your gold-plated, red leather-covered, limited-edition MP gets run over by a Chinese type 59 tank in Tiananmen Square? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Mitchum Posted January 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted January 21, 2010 "Products has been engraved on a commemorative emblem depicting Tiananmen Square." That is downright shameful. It is amazing to me that they are depicting Tiananmen Square of all things as a positive symbol to represent the Chinese government. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 21, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 21, 2010 Let's not get political, but Tienanmen Square has a long history both before and after the "student uprising." If you argue that Leica is supporting repression, at least recognize that you could just as well say that Leica is sticking its finger of the eye of the rulers there, reminding them of their refusal to honor human rights. Note the engraving, "1949-2009." That encompasses a lot of history outside the period you want to refer to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQ5 Posted January 21, 2010 Share #14 Posted January 21, 2010 If we get political and go into history, all kinds of charges and accusations can be made against almost any government or countries. I will leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted January 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted January 21, 2010 Isn't it rather the other way around? "The China Government supports LEICA" But anyhow, who cares? There are more important things right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted January 21, 2010 So outrage at a limited edition Leica, but we'll turn a blind eye to all of the products we're buying everyday which are made or part made in China, including probably the equipment you're using to read this website! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 22, 2010 Share #17 Posted January 22, 2010 Excellent point, James! I wish I had thought of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delnerdo Posted January 22, 2010 Share #18 Posted January 22, 2010 Too bad the DLX4 lacks the red & gold of the MP... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/110126-leica-supports-the-china-government/?do=findComment&comment=1195743'>More sharing options...
Mister X Posted January 22, 2010 Share #19 Posted January 22, 2010 Politics aside, the MP is a beauty and will probably appreciate more than my stock portfolio over time. At least somebody's going to be getting some money out of China, with the balance of trade being what it is, that's one way to do it, sell their nouveau riche expensive bling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted January 22, 2010 Share #20 Posted January 22, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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