badpets Posted January 18, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 18, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do I need a Summitar 50mm F2 when I already have Noctilux 50mm F1.0? Thanks in advance for you thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicoleica Posted January 18, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 18, 2010 Ut-Oh! This is going to be interesting. I'd better bake some buns and settle into my comfy chair. My answer would be 'need', NO, but if you are a lens collector, or have caught Leicaphilia, then probably YES. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 18, 2010 Share #3 Posted January 18, 2010 No. But there is nothing stopping you wanting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted January 18, 2010 Share #4 Posted January 18, 2010 Do you need a hole in your head? :-) If you can afford the Noctilux, I'm sure this new lens will not put a dent in your wallet - if you really want it, not need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 18, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 18, 2010 YES We all need one of each Leica lens produced, we just dont know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pklein Posted January 18, 2010 Share #6 Posted January 18, 2010 The Summitar has a unique way of drawing wide-open, very 1930s-looking, but in a different way than a Zeiss Sonnar or Jupiter-3 or Jupiter-8. It really has coma--butterfly-shaped highlights when you have light sources away from the center of the frame. As you stop down, it gets sharp in the center but stays "dreamy" towards the edges. You don't "need" it, but you might like it. Today, I'd call the Summitar a specialty lens. It's certainly lighter than the Noct. The Summitar takes special filters with a conically-shaped thread. You would need a filter adapter to use standard-sized UV-IR filters for the M8. These are uncommon and expensive, or need to be custom made. I had DAG make one for me out of an old Summitar filter ring. Used Summitars often need a cleaning. Add $80-$120 to the price, and beware of scratches on the soft front element. If you're looking for more modern, sharp, lightweight lens to complement your Noctilux, a 50mm Summicron from the 1970s or later would be a better option. --Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badpets Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted January 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) thank you all ur inputs, esp. peter. very informative. i guess summitar is too troublesome to be used in a m8. i actually have found a summicron L50 F2 in very good condition which is selling at about USD 2400... the reason i started this threat is because i want to make sure i dont get a lens that's similar to what i have already own. i understand summitar has "character" like the noctilux. but after some thoughts, but i think i should get the summicron L50 instead ... also the rumored new 35mm summilux would also be nice... what's ur guys' best len(ses)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 19, 2010 Share #8 Posted January 19, 2010 I say sure. Why would you always want to have a 4-5-6 thousand dollar, and heavy, lens on the camera when you would be using f/2-f/8 for the amount of light you are in. Now if you said a f/2 lens compared to a f/1.4 lux then no. The Lux is half the weight of a Nocti and much smaller and give better images then any 50 f/2 at any f/stop (even at f/1.4). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2010 Share #9 Posted January 19, 2010 I hear you, Ed, but in that case I would consider going completely in the opposite direction. For instance the Elmar-M 50/2.8 collapsible. Miniature, especially when collapsed, - but very high image quality. Or a Summarit 50 - still small and light, but quite a good lens in its own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted January 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2010 I needed both. You can have a Summitar-to-39mm adapter made, as suggested, and get a cheap hood on Ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2010 If the Noctilux is your only 50mm, it wouldn't hurt to have another smaller 50mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badpets Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted January 20, 2010 I forgot to mention that I also already own an Elmar-M 50mm F2.8 ... I asked a Leica dealer the other day and he said if he would ever spend so much money to buy a lens he would buy the newer lens. He also said the older lenses have character, but they are very much just like toy camera lenses... What would you guys respond to that?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 20, 2010 I would say you have your 50mm needs covered and if you buy another, you do need to go with an old school effects style Leica lens... they are similar to toy camera lenses when used in color... but in B&W, they can have some magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badpets Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted January 20, 2010 i agree. especially for noctilux... i tried out the new noctilux f.95 the other day, but honestly i think i like noctilux f1.0 way better ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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