ppolla Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share #21 Posted December 25, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Unique image ID is the correct number. It is in hexadecimal which means 53 hex is 83 decimal. It is the sort of number that would be expected on a new camera. Jeff If my first number is 53.....does that mean that it in fact is the 83rd picture taken with this camera? Am I reading this correctly? Can I assume that Leica tested the camera with 82 photos? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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delander † Posted December 25, 2009 Share #22 Posted December 25, 2009 Yes 83 test shots - which is easily within normal bounds I would say. I have no idea why a new camera should have already been registered except to confirm that similar instances been reported here before. Of course it is possible that it had a previous owner who then suffered a dose of buyer's remorse and returned the camera after a few shots. That owner stupidly registered the camera while he/she had it. But this does not explain the wrong box. Only the dealer knows the full story. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottocrat Posted December 25, 2009 Share #23 Posted December 25, 2009 I'm a bit confused, bear with this slightly bewildered new user: should I therefore expect to be able to register my second-hand M8.2 on the Leica website? I tried but (unsurprisingly to me) the serial number was listed as already taken. Should my dealer have deregistered the camera then before selling it to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted December 25, 2009 Share #24 Posted December 25, 2009 I would agree with Nicole that the dealer most likely has mistakenly done a box swap of two new cameras... Per chance did you try and register the serial number on the box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted December 25, 2009 Share #25 Posted December 25, 2009 Per chance did you try and register the serial number on the box? I would advise against that. If it succeeds it will only make the situation more complex and in anycase what is the point of registering a box? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 25, 2009 Share #26 Posted December 25, 2009 I would advise an exchange asap...even if the camera is new, being in the wrong box indicates that it was handled or on display prior to the sale. If you paid a "new" price, you want a new virgin camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share #27 Posted December 25, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would advise an exchange asap...even if the camera is new, being in the wrong box indicates that it was handled or on display prior to the sale. If you paid a "new" price, you want a new virgin camera. I absolutely agree.....camera is new...I have no doubst about that....I wonder if the mistake was at the factory.... Camera was not touched before and the number of actuations proves that also. The strange thing is that everything in the box belongs to M8.2....except the sticker on the box and the test certificate. I will go back to them on Sunday and see what they say. They don't have any M8.2s in stock any more, so chances of finding the right box are almost 0% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share #28 Posted December 26, 2009 Do you fellow Leica friends think that if I keep the camera, Leica would send me a new box with correct test certificate papers and the correct serial number sticker that would match my camera serial number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted December 26, 2009 Share #29 Posted December 26, 2009 If you can't obtain the correct box and papers from your dealer, then I'm sure that Leica will be able to sort it all out for you. I know that they can supply new boxes with the correct number on, as one time that my M8 went for a visit to Solms, it came back in a brand new box and outer carton, both with the correct serial number on them. I know it was a new box, as I didn't originally have an outer carton, and my original box had a deep scratch on it from new. Just drop them a line, explaining everything and I'm sure that they will sort it out. You need to contact them anyway regarding the registration. (Not that it should make any difference, but does your guarantee certificate show the correct number, or is all the paperwork wrong?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted December 26, 2009 Share #30 Posted December 26, 2009 Just file the serial number off the hotshoe and scratch on the same number as is on the box. <Just kidding!> Use a Dremel tool of course. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share #31 Posted December 26, 2009 If you can't obtain the correct box and papers from your dealer, then I'm sure that Leica will be able to sort it all out for you. I know that they can supply new boxes with the correct number on, as one time that my M8 went for a visit to Solms, it came back in a brand new box and outer carton, both with the correct serial number on them. I know it was a new box, as I didn't originally have an outer carton, and my original box had a deep scratch on it from new. Just drop them a line, explaining everything and I'm sure that they will sort it out. You need to contact them anyway regarding the registration. (Not that it should make any difference, but does your guarantee certificate show the correct number, or is all the paperwork wrong?) Also the certificate is wrong....sticker on the box and the certificate match... 319xxx, while camera is 355xxx I think Jaap was right in saying that 319xxx could be a M8.....and not M8.2...but then how come all instructions and the M8.2 charger were inside the box... very strange.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted December 26, 2009 Share #32 Posted December 26, 2009 Certainly the dealer needs to sort this out for you. It's important that everything matches. I don't know about others here but I keep all the boxes, bags, labels my equipment comes with. When my Noctilux 0.95 arrived in (my guess), June, the lens serial did not match that on the boxes. The dealer got Leica to provide me with a new box, even the light brown outer, new certificates, polythene bags and so on, all with the correct number so that everything matches. I think there were 7 or 8 instances in all. They asked for, and I sent, the old ones back to prevent them being "in circulation". So what Nicole says about them being able to provide a complete matching set is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&A Posted December 26, 2009 Share #33 Posted December 26, 2009 Hmmm, Just a few days ago I was helping a friend set up their M8.2 which they just recently aquired. Using "Opanda" Power Exif Reader (trail version)...took a "jpeg shot" and uniq # read as 33...then a second jpeg shot and the next jpeg unique # also read as 33 ? (both translating to 54 shots). I know both jpegs having a unique # of 33 as well as the camera's "33" translating to 54 shots can't be right for his particular camera. I'm assuming the (Openda) Exif reader not able to decipher Leica M8 files unique #'s correctly and that some other Exif data reader is necessary for the M8 files? Thanks! Dave (D&A) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted December 26, 2009 Share #34 Posted December 26, 2009 I use Adobe Bridge to read the unique ID. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&A Posted December 26, 2009 Share #35 Posted December 26, 2009 Thanks very much Jeff! Much better! Then it appears Opanda Exif reader does not read Leica M8 file's unique #'s correctly, but Bridge does (see explanation below). I had a few of his Raw and jpeg test files with me and just now took the unique #, this time from "Bridge" as you suggested. The two consecutive Jpegs read 42e then 42f...which translates to 1070 then 1072. The Raw file which was taken quite a few shots earlier than the two jpegs read 3BB, which translates to 955 , I don't think over 100 shots had been taken between that RAW file and those two jpegs...so I guess the jpeg unique ID# may be the more reliable of the two. If memory serves me correctly, (I was with him at the time)...maybe 40 shots were taken between that RAW file and the two jpegs...then again I could have lost track of the number of shots between both types of files...and maybe more than 100 shots taken..but I'm almost certain thats not the case. Do you find it makes a differences using Raw file vs. jpeg fil unique # (in Bridge) strickly for purpose of determining # of actuations? Thanks again! Dave (D&A) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 27, 2009 Share #36 Posted December 27, 2009 Also the certificate is wrong....sticker on the box and the certificate match... 319xxx, while camera is 355xxxI think Jaap was right in saying that 319xxx could be a M8.....and not M8.2...but then how come all instructions and the M8.2 charger were inside the box... very strange.... I'm not 100% sure on that number as a caveat. However, Leica is a great company to deal with. Just get in touch with Solms - I'm sure they can sort you out. The speak English as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share #37 Posted December 28, 2009 OK...so the update is that the dealer contacted the distributor who blamed the factory in Germany for the mistake. In the coming weeks I will be getting a new box and new test certificate with the correct serial number that matches my M8.2. I should also be able to register my camera in the coming days.... Now off to do some shooting....finally! Will post a few of my first shots later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 28, 2009 Share #38 Posted December 28, 2009 Btw - you never told us what lens you got Don't forget to claim your free IR filters - you need them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share #39 Posted December 28, 2009 I got the summicron 35mm.... Paolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 28, 2009 Share #40 Posted December 28, 2009 Good choice. Now a Summicron or Elmarit 75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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