proenca Posted December 4, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 4, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi there all, I love my M8 and my MP : although my MP gets very seldom use but I try. Anyway, in terms of lenses I love my nocti and my CV15 but would like to add another lens. Im torn between the 18 Elmar ( which will be comparable to my CV15 of some sorts ) , the 21 2.8 ASPH and the 24 2.8 ASPH. I found a very nice example of the 24 Elmarit in chrome and im tempted but.. I like the WIDE angle of view and in those terms, the 24 is a bit more like a 35mm : wide but not much I can source few 21's that would be a good compromise but .... they are in black and I love chrome lenses. Or I can ditch all those together, buy the new 18mm and get over it. The wate, as much it would be a great option, is out : quality is not up to discussion but the clunky way of putting filters turned me off. I believe that between thse lens, the 24 is a gem : draws very nicely, super sharp and small and light for what it is... but I'm afraid it wont give me that wide look that I'm after ( at least on my M8 ) . Can some M8 users prove me wrong ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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danyves Posted December 4, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 4, 2009 The 24 Elmarit is a real gem on the M8: now my only lens for the M8. Wide enough if you move accordingly. Does not need external viewer. While I had finished with the Summicron 28 on the M6. http://www.pirate-photo.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=287 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 4, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 4, 2009 Agree completely : bought one 7 months ago... fantastic on M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copenhagenliving Posted December 4, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 4, 2009 I just got a ELMARIT 24 mm. two days ago. So I look forward to testing it this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revdockj Posted December 4, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 4, 2009 I just used it recently on my m8 for an indoor shoot. Plenty wide for what I needed with virtually no distortion. Sharp as can be and I love the way it "draws." You can find ways to use it to give it that "wide angle" look. This lens and the noctilux are the two lenses I carry everywhere. Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted December 4, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 4, 2009 You have to decide what focal length you really need. No reason to "stand up" for the 24 Elmarit. It's well known to be one of Leica's very best. Next to the 50 lux asph, my favorite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misha Posted December 4, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 4, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) its a great walk-around day lens but somewhat limiting (2.8) at night. misha PHOTOGRAPHY BY MISHA FRIEDMAN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic108 Posted December 5, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 5, 2009 The 24mm Elmarit is a really fine lens. Very sharp. Fast to focus. Lightweight. Can be used without viewfinder. Has a very nice focal length on the M8. Hardly any vignetting. I have posted a couple of images from the 24mm to the flickr 24mm Elmarit grup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted December 6, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 6, 2009 If I didn't already have a 21, I'd definitely go for the 24. Narrower, but not that much and with the advantage of not needing to guess the field. Also, as already mentioned before, one of Leica best lenses. If that matters, Erwin Puts said in his review: [...] The Elmarit-M 24mm is without any doubt a masterpiece of optical engineering and within the Leica M range a landmark design. No Leica M user should be without this lens. The M style of photography demands intimate close range photography and the 24 is one of the best lenses to explore this area. It delivers unsurpassable quality in the 24 focal length. [...] and again: [...] The M version of the 24 focal length is a lens that is a quantum leap forward in comparison to the R-version. It gives the user imaging quality potential that is a challenge to materialize. Where the R version is quite capable, the M version is just phenomenal. At full aperture the M version is already almost at its optimum, realizing a long standing goal of the Leica optical designers: best quality at full aperture over the whole image field. This lens is quite demanding on the capabilities of film emulsions. Pictures 0n 400ISO transparency film proved that this lens will show its qualities even when relatively grainy films are being used. Within the Leica lens range this lens has a premium position. Its angle of view produces fresh views of interesting objects in this world at close range and its optical capabilities add a novel impact to pictures taken with fairly wide angle lenses. No Leica M user should be without this lens. The M style of photography demands intimate close range photography and the 24 is one of the best lenses to explore this area. It delivers unsurpassable quality in the 24 focal length. [...] Is that enough? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted December 6, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 6, 2009 I cannot say enough about the performance of the 24 Elmarit-M on FF, and it is just a wonderful everyday lens on the M8. Recently did a one month/1000+ image vacation with just the 24 and 50 Lux, and probably 85% were with the Elmarit. Absolutely fabulous results. In real world shooting a f:2.8 isn't so slow when handholding a 24mm ASPH lens on a M body......especially when it is sharp edge to edge wide open. A must have lens - IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted December 7, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 7, 2009 The 24mm Elmarit was my best match for the M8. Sharp, crispy, warm. The only downside was the lens blocked partially the right corner of the viewfinder which was bothering at times. Otherwise, the files I got from it were superior to any others. I don't use it much more on the M9 because 24mm becomes wide ... wide. Too wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 7, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 7, 2009 If you should decidein the future to get an M9, a 21 would be very wide and specialist, a 28 a bit close to the 35, so with that in mind 24 seems to be an ideal choice, in addition to the obvious advantages of the focal length on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manicouagan1 Posted December 7, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 7, 2009 On my M8, the 24/2.8 is wonderfully sharp and wide enough to try my hand at duplicating Ansel Adams classic image of the San Francisco church in Rancho de Taos, New Mexico. Vignetting wide open is mild enough that I can I can deal with it easily in post processing but I generally don't feel I need to, by f5.6 it can be ignored. The lens field of view on an M8 lends itself to shots in confined spaces. I have been very pleased by results in native markets in Honduras and Mexico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted December 7, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 7, 2009 Get a 24/2.8, it is a fantastic lens. The 18/3.8 is good too, but if I had to sell the 18 would go before the 24. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted December 7, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 7, 2009 Personally, I had the 24/2.8 for my M8 but sold it shortly after I bought the 28/2.8-asph. Both lenses draw exactly the same way and have the same pin-sharp, contrasty style but the 28/2.8 has the advantage of being a very small lens which adds to portability. I found I was leaving the 24 at home a lot because it is a big and heavy lens by comparison. That said, the 24 was in fact three lenses, a 24, 28 and 35 because you can easily crop and still not lose resolution and sharpness. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted December 7, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 7, 2009 It certainly makes a wonderful partner to the M8. Of all my lenses this is the one that seemed most at home and easy to use. A sample here demonstrates what I did with it and there are many more to show. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/sports-leisure-time/104258-land-rover.html For M8 wedding work, it was ideal on the second camera. On FF film, it's still produces great images, but tends to emphasise itself more as a wide, wide lens. For example the above shot might not have worked so well on FF and a 35mm would have been selected. Now the M8 has gone, I'm really looking forward to coming to terms with it again on FF. It is so good wide open that it can be used at f2.8 for 1/30s and produce very sharp images. Sometimes, wider aperture lenses improve markedly when closed down to f2.8, so I wouldn't hesitate to take it out into the night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted December 7, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 7, 2009 Pro, The 24 'rit was my choice to start with the M8. I used the CV15, which you also have, to go wider. I chose it to go with the M8 frame set. It's a brilliant lens -- I use it for portrait work as it gets out of the way and renders so magnificently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fransd Posted December 8, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 8, 2009 I also have the Elmarit 24 and is as others mentioned already together with my 50 1,4 asph my most used lens. When I was you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_reinierv Posted December 8, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 8, 2009 I shot 80% with the elmarit 24, 15% with the VC 15 and 5 with my 50 cron just love the 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted December 8, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 8, 2009 Personally, I had the 24/2.8 for my M8 but sold it shortly after I bought the 28/2.8-asph. Both lenses draw exactly the same way and have the same pin-sharp, contrasty style but the 28/2.8 has the advantage of being a very small lens which adds to portability. I found I was leaving the 24 at home a lot because it is a big and heavy lens by comparison. That said, the 24 was in fact three lenses, a 24, 28 and 35 because you can easily crop and still not lose resolution and sharpness. LouisB I had the 28, but found it to be more clinical, harsher, (somebody called it dull) not rendering an as smooth, pleasing and elegant sharpness as the 24mm does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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