stunsworth Posted November 19, 2009 Share #41 Posted November 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...But since Stunsworth and Bill know there are 50 M9s being delivered daily... Where did I say that Earl? If you're going to quote me at least do me the honour of reading what I write. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tapebias Posted November 19, 2009 Share #42 Posted November 19, 2009 Hans, did you point and say, "Just let me have that one and I'll be fine thanks." Hi Rick, Of course I asked, but the answer was just a smile! As said, my M8 is still ok and I can wait. And I have a good relation to my dealer for many years. He just offered me a M9 in black, which I refused and therefore made the next customer in line happy. I prefer the steel gray. They are coming in now in drops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted November 19, 2009 Share #43 Posted November 19, 2009 That Leica has badly botched the M9's supply chain is self-evident truth. I think what we're seeing is a small high tech company producing a popular product at the most profitable rate. This makes sense, though it leads to frustration for customers. I want Leica to be profitable so it can stick around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaxe Posted November 19, 2009 Share #44 Posted November 19, 2009 I have also been waiting since the middle of September for my M9 (from Calumet). They have not been of any help with delivery info but I figure that the camera that I am now using and liked is still good today in spite of the M9 so I will wait a bit longer. (I had to wait about 2 months for my Canon 5D Mkll). Leica is a much smaller firm than Canon and this is not totally unexpected. The good news is that they probably have a hit on their hands and I will not have to read any more posts about the demise of Leica in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris M Posted November 19, 2009 Share #45 Posted November 19, 2009 Patients is a virtue, and now probably a blessing in discize. Because, Leica is now realizing that their [maybe some problems with the M9] that are finally surfacing that hadn't bin addressed. so you wait now for the big fix or you earlly birds get the worm and send it back for the big fix and wait later. Ps.... everytime a big new Leica camera edition comes out, all the regular afficianados should already no that their will allways be those initial problems to iron out with the new releases. Pss........... Be Patient:eek: chris m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted November 19, 2009 Share #46 Posted November 19, 2009 Patients is a virtue, and now probably a blessing in discize. Because, Leica is now realizing that their [maybe some problems with the M9] that are finally surfacing that hadn't bin addressed. so you wait now for the big fix or you earlly birds get the worm and send it back for the big fix and wait later. Ps.... everytime a big new Leica camera edition comes out, all the regular afficianados should already no that their will allways be those initial problems to iron out with the new releases. Pss........... Be Patient:eek: chris m. After reading this, I'm tempted to try the IIIf in a few years... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 19, 2009 Share #47 Posted November 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) That Leica has badly botched the M9's supply chain is self-evident truth. I ordered mine on the 9/9 announcement day (and paid for it in full). Only ONE has been delivered to my local dealer, one of only three Leica dealers in Chicago. CHICAGO...six million people in the area. I'm now #1 in line and have been for at least two weeks. Early scarcity of popular products is to be expected. But the $7,000 M9 is hardly "popular" (by Canon or Nikon standards) and months-long delays exceed the definition of "scarcity". The M9's hardly critical to me but Leica has botched this badly. In that case, The Kirk, Wester Balblair, by Beauly, Inverness-shire, Scotland, must have at least sixty million inhabitants by your reckoning... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 19, 2009 Share #48 Posted November 19, 2009 ... The good news is that they probably have a hit on their hands and I will not have to read any more posts about the demise of Leica in the near future. You are right, that they will not have to read those postings. Though I am sure, many postings like this will be written: just wishful thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spersky Posted November 19, 2009 Share #49 Posted November 19, 2009 People on this forum taking a lot of deliveries this week. This is of course a small sample. I sure a lot more are becoming available. In the Q/A thread with Leica under customer forum the estimate is about 20,000 M9 are on order. That is wonderful sucess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 20, 2009 Share #50 Posted November 20, 2009 Regarding comparisons to past Leica product deliveries, I think folks here should keep in mind that demand is not just for the M9, but for the X1 and S2 as well. The Leica rep for the mid-Atlantic US region told me recently that all 3 products have greatly exceeded his expectations and his initial order rate. He has loads of Leica and customer experience, and I truly think he wasn't naive initially, nor trying to hype the products to me. FWIW, he thinks Leica has been missing the boat...and even greater sales... on the dslr front. Unlike many others in the company, he believes that Leica "should realize it's in the glass business, not the camera business for a dslr." He said that if the company offers a "simple" dslr of any reasonable spec...not a Canikon clone... it would be his number one seller by far. In any event, as a long time Leica owner, I consider all of these short term supply problems to be good news for the longer term....as long as the products themselves continue to meet expectations. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtaylor Posted November 20, 2009 Share #51 Posted November 20, 2009 This is an interesting situation. How many are like me... I was a Leica user way back when (M3), and have long abandoned it for Nikon, with enough Nikon equipment to load any person down several times over. I won't be getting rid of my 600/400/200 long lenses for wildlife and action any time soon, but was really looking forward to jettisoning my heavy slr equipment for travel and landscape work for a lighter, and higher quality equipment set. I became quite excited following the initial reviews, and ordered the M9 the end of September. Lord knows when I will receive it. I became so excited (as well as my bad back), that I added to my two older lenses with two ones ones. I am determined to stay on the list, but how many in my position will flee? I know many (I have received the comments already on other forums) consider me an interloper, but if any company is to succeed these days, it helps to have some market growth and some new blood. Bottom line is I agree with many others that Leica, who managed to reinvigorate my long dormant "Leica" enthusiasm with great marketing, may have missed/fumbled a great opportunity. I for one have no problem imagining a M9 next to my D700. My D700 may be jealous (but not in very low light), but it may now have an opportunity to forget about the slight.... Maybe in April... Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjjuin Posted November 20, 2009 Share #52 Posted November 20, 2009 if one day leica produce the M cameras as fast as nikon/canon, then the situation will be different. but anyway my opinion is, leica at least should give us a specific dates. I actually understand why they make the camera so slowly. But they don't usually communicate and update news to his consumers, this makes me feel bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissah Posted November 20, 2009 Share #53 Posted November 20, 2009 You guys in the US need a bit of understanding sometimes ... when Apple came out with the Iphone, we got it almost a year afterwards. And it is the same for many products. So for once that a EU company has a hot product, I have no problem to see them ship first to Arras, small town of 42,015 and 30'000 cows in France instead of Chicago. you got the iPhone a yr later bc of apples deal w AT&T. Had nothing to do w supply/demand. I too think leica has handled this poorly. I also think some of the leica reps could of been more helpful. The leica rep at Samys told me 9 days b4 launch he knew nothing of it. That day he was at Samys peddling lenses. I was off to Europe so, by the time I returned it was 5 wks later. He didn't want to tell me (or others in LA) bc he wanted to sell me a lens! Go figure. Since tibor et al know I hv what I want lens wise seems to me putting me on a (pretend) list was just good biz. Bc u and know I won't b buying an M9 from Samys. Best Melissa -sent from my iPhone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted November 20, 2009 Share #54 Posted November 20, 2009 You guys in the US need a bit of understanding sometimes ... when Apple came out with the Iphone, we got it almost a year afterwards. And it is the same for many products. So for once that a EU company has a hot product, I have no problem to see them ship first to Arras, small town of 42,015 and 30'000 cows in France instead of Chicago. LOL love your work mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 20, 2009 Share #55 Posted November 20, 2009 You guys in the US need a bit of understanding sometimes ... when Apple came out with the Iphone, we got it almost a year afterwards. And it is the same for many products. So for once that a EU company has a hot product, I have no problem to see them ship first to Arras, small town of 42,015 and 30'000 cows in France instead of Chicago. Et combien Leica en a-t-il livré à Arras, France? And how many did Leica ship to Arras, France? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 20, 2009 Share #56 Posted November 20, 2009 Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, the Leica M9 just doesn't exist. Period. I'm perfectly happy with my M8.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted November 20, 2009 Share #57 Posted November 20, 2009 Et combien Leica en a-t-il livré à Arras, France? And how many did Leica ship to Arras, France? As far as I know, two the very first weeks. And they were on Ebay the day after ... none of the 42'014 or 30'000 cows had shown interest apparently. The cameras were picked up within hours. As for products being introduced way after in Europe, there are so many cases. Take Root Beer for example. It has now been 116 years we are waitin... oups, bad example, nobody would drink that crap here .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 20, 2009 Share #58 Posted November 20, 2009 Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, the Leica M9 just doesn't exist. Period. I'm perfectly happy with my M8.2. Great statement! I am totally with you! Nothing more to be said! (Hope you will remember your words when you will start next time lamenting about the M9 and Leica in general.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAEDALUS Posted November 20, 2009 Share #59 Posted November 20, 2009 I'm on the waiting list with a large UK dealer and had been told to expect delivery late November (I thought this was a little optomistic at the time!), this is part of an email from the dealer I got today. "All M9 bodies are being checked by hand before being dispatched and I have heard that there have been some quality control issues with some of the Kodak CCD sensors, this has meant that they have not received as many sensors as they would have liked and therefore cannot complete the assembly of the bodies which is why we are not getting as many as we would like." I'm sure when the camera arrives it will be worth the wait..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted November 20, 2009 Share #60 Posted November 20, 2009 That Leica has badly botched the M9's supply chain is self-evident truth. I ordered mine on the 9/9 announcement day (and paid for it in full). Only ONE has been delivered to my local dealer, one of only three Leica dealers in Chicago. CHICAGO...six million people in the area. I'm now #1 in line and have been for at least two weeks. Ken, Not sure why Chicago is being poorly served - maybe the other dealers are seeing more cameras than yours? As a point of reference, here in Portland, a much smaller market, I know that my dealer has received at least 3 cameras since launch, and possibly more since I've received mine. I still have my original Steel Grey order open though ... As regards the deliveries in general - I do think that Leica and their reps need to go back to marketing and business communication school. They could easily have let us know that there's a limited production capacity and that it is quality managed and therefore not elastic to meet extra demand. Given this, expectations for delivery could be set so that people would be aware that instant gratification of an M9 from the dealer wasn't likely. Heck even I could spin that message to sound like Leica quality trumps any pressure from unanticipated demand and parts supply hiccoughs. I know my dealer was caught up as the embarrassing man in the middle with my camera - I ordered prior to 9/9 & #1 on list, after 9/9 the Leica rep told them (and hence me) that my camera should arrive within 2 weeks or so, then silence, then a revised delivery of 'soon' and a black one arrived instead of my grey one 2 weeks later. The next communication was that grey would be 2010 but I could have a black one almost immediately which true to their word turned up within another week. 51 days total from order to delivery as #1 on the list in a relatively small US market. At least with my Nikon orders there's expectation management. They announced their 70-200 VR II replacement lens a couple of months ago and quoted delivery November/December. Vague enough and far off enough that I haven't fretted over my order in the same way that Leica made me do so with their mis-set expectations of immediate availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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