Frank Black Posted October 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well... I`ve been reading ,and learnig from you all here,but i have this doubt in my mind... And yes, i did read all the info available on the web, so much as i could,but i would like to have your personal opinions... I have a M8, wich i love, with a 35 Summicron F2 Type 3 I really like the combination, specially because of the small size of the lens... I like to shoot mostly people on the street, not secretly, but most of the times just approaching them and make a talk before i ask them to snap it... Having the 35 X 1.33, what happens is that i have to step back to put people in their surroundings, my idea is if i go to 28 x1.33 i will get a more what i like... Im very curious about your toughts... Would you keep the summicron 35 ? or you would go for the 28 asph last version... How can i compare this two small lenses contrast and sharpness wise ? Would i loose that 70`s feeling from my summicron ? I have to say that my previous camera was a Nikon F2 and a Leica CM, wich i still own, and the M8 is my first Digital... (The 28 summicron is no option, money wise) Thanks everyone who are willing to put their 2 cents in this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Hi Frank Black, Take a look here 35 Summicron or The new Elmarit 28 asph ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
viramati Posted October 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2009 not a big difference between the 35 and 28. you might want to consider the zeiss biagon 25/2.8. I have one and love it. -------------------- David Sampson Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted October 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2009 IMHO the best field of view for the kind of shot you're talking about is roughly 35mm on full-frame, so that makes the 28 just about right on your M8. I have no idea whether you would like the way the lens renders, in fact I have the 28 cron instead. But the field of view should be spot on, it's a very compact lens too. As it happens, I saw a mint one in Aperture yesterday. The have a website and it seems that it is still available. Leica 28mm f2.8 Elmarit-M ASPH #4078xxx ( boxed) 6 bit Passport expires March 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted October 27, 2009 not a big difference between the 35 and 28. you might want to consider the zeiss biagon 25/2.8. I have one and love it. -------------------- David Sampson Photography Thanks for your answer... I gave up on the Zeiss.. I tought about it, call me Vain, but i want Leica Glass... In terms of 37 to 47...i disagree... Its not a big diference, but it is still to feel... But im curious, you seem not to see or feel the diference, i wonder if you can explain...Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted October 27, 2009 IMHO the best field of view for the kind of shot you're talking about is roughly 35mm on full-frame, so that makes the 28 just about right on your M8. I have no idea whether you would like the way the lens renders, in fact I have the 28 cron instead. But the field of view should be spot on, it's a very compact lens too. As it happens, I saw a mint one in Aperture yesterday. The have a website and it seems that it is still available. Leica 28mm f2.8 Elmarit-M ASPH #4078xxx ( boxed) 6 bit Passport expires March 2010 Thanks I can buy one in a dealer, giving my summicron for a value around 750 euros and get the elmarit, in my Hometown... But thanks anyway:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelly Posted October 27, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2009 For what it's worth I started with the 28 Elmarit, and then bought a 35 2.5 because (I thought) I would like a slightly longer lens. 90% of the time I used the 28, not the 35, and then, 15 months later I 'upgraded' the Elmarit to a 'cron becuase of the extra stop, and 'traded' the 35 for a 50 2.5 because the differential between the 28 and 35 wasn't quite enough for me. My usage is now ~65%/35% in terms of 28 and 50, so I feel for me and my style of shooting this is the combination that works best. I recently lent my son the M8 (it seems to be on permanent loan at present!) and he purchased a CV 35 Nokton Classic, which he uses 90% of the time when he shoots. Each to his own, I think that lenses (and combinations thereof) are as personal as shooting style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted October 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 28mm elmarit ASPH is a wonderful and sharp lens. It is also very small and suitably non-threatening for street photography. Some say that it is contrasty, I have not found it particularly so. It is an excellent focal length on the M8. I'm keeping mine although I also have the 28 cron ASPH. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted October 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 27, 2009 The 28mm elmarit ASPH is a wonderful and sharp lens. It is also very small and suitably non-threatening for street photography. Some say that it is contrasty, I have not found it particularly so. It is an excellent focal length on the M8. I'm keeping mine although I also have the 28 cron ASPH. Jeff Same here. Pity you want to stick to Leica... Actually, I also have the recent CV 28/2, which renders what I guess you may call that 70's feeling. I find that 28mm is probably the most useful focal length on the M8 - for street photography at least - and each of my three lenses gets its fair share of use depending on the situation. For what it's worth, if I had to choose one, it would be the Elmarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apitong Posted October 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2009 From the late 70-s my favorite combination was the CL with 40 Summicron. The M8 with the 28 mm Elmarit Asph comes very close. Especially with the ISO 160 or 320 compared to Ektachrome 64 in the old days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimleicam3 Posted October 28, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 28, 2009 I tried the 28 mm, and just did not like it, so I traded for the 35 mm f/2, and love it! I am not a pro, just a guy that has one good photo out of two hundred. Cheers, Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted October 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm not sure what you decided but both are excellent. I mostly use my 35mm Cron on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted October 28, 2009 Great Lots of input... Its helping me... I see lot of diferent opinions, all beeing positive about their own choice... Im leaning to trade my 35 summicron for the 28 elmarit asph... Im a one man lens, and like someone aove said, im not a pro also, just a photography Lover, that from thousands of shots got maybe one or two worth take a longer look... But please keep going..Knowledge is welcome... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted October 28, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 28, 2009 The Elmarit is great and is a slick package with the M8. Between 35 and 28, there not so much difference, that it cannot be compensated usually with a couple of steps forward / backward. If you shot in low light situations, f/2.8 may be to "slow". Take that into account. Cheers Ivo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted October 29, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 29, 2009 I have both lenses and wouldn't part with either. Each has special qualities. The 35 Summicron is very useful in dull lighting or indoors because of its extra stop. The 28 Elmarit is perfect for walk-about photography with the M8 in most daylight situations. If you are forced to have only one lens, do consider the 28 Summicron which will serve you well regardless of lighting levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted October 29, 2009 I have both lenses and wouldn't part with either. Each has special qualities. The 35 Summicron is very useful in dull lighting or indoors because of its extra stop. The 28 Elmarit is perfect for walk-about photography with the M8 in most daylight situations. If you are forced to have only one lens, do consider the 28 Summicron which will serve you well regardless of lighting levels. I would love to aim to the 28 summicron, but its out of my budget... Mine 35 summicron, version 3, i bought it from a retiring photographer and shop owner for 435 euros... That was the reason i bougth it...because it was a really good deal, This was at the same time i bought my M8... At the time i did not had the extra money to go for a 28..and in my vision, i really want to have a small lens... I tought about buying a biogon or a CV and keep the 35 summicron, but then again i would have the F-stop at 2.8 or 4... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted October 29, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 29, 2009 At the time i did not had the extra money to go for a 28..and in my vision, i really want to have a small lens... I tought about buying a biogon or a CV and keep the 35 summicron, but then again i would have the F-stop at 2.8 or 4... At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the CV 28/2 may be worth a try if you want/need f/2 and a sweet price. But only you can decide whether or not you like the way it renders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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