barjohn Posted November 1, 2012 Share #1 Posted November 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here is a thread with info you might be interested in: NEW Leica M ---- First Try! - 貼圖區 Photo Posting - Hong Kong Leica Fan Club - Powered by Discuz! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Hi barjohn, Take a look here New Leica M in Hong Kong. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
chris_tribble Posted November 1, 2012 Share #2 Posted November 1, 2012 Some interesting comments - and nice faces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 1, 2012 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2012 What is the strange cylindrical silver thing in front of the EVF, in the photo taken with the iPhone? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted November 1, 2012 Share #4 Posted November 1, 2012 What is the strange cylindrical silver thing in front of the EVF, in the photo taken with the iPhone? The silver thing is the stereo microphone, and the thing behind it is the microphone adapter that uses the hot shoe and EVF port. I don't know whether they are two units with the mike mounted in a 3.5mm jack on the front of the adapter, or whether they're one piece, a microphone that can only be used with the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anupmc Posted November 1, 2012 Share #5 Posted November 1, 2012 Frameline - the traditional 3 or 5 sets framline all gone. When you half press the shutter, a new light blue colour electronic frameline will appears in the viewfinder. Eh? No framelines without half-pressing the shutter release?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted November 1, 2012 Share #6 Posted November 1, 2012 I hope this doesn't turn into a- I'm canceling my order/what was Leica thinking/this is a step in the wrong direction/my CaNikon is better.... thread. I'm guessing Leica knows very well what we expect in terms of frame lines and will have (most) everything sorted by the time our greedy little hands take delivery of the full production models. Frankly, I'm impressed by these 360k downsized jpg's. I'd love to see full size, but these are at iso 2000 and look terrific! I'm really looking forward to buying an M. Now for the tough decision on whether to sell the M7, M8.2 or M9. You will all probably see the 8.2 & 9 on the market in a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 1, 2012 Share #7 Posted November 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) The silver thing is the stereo microphone, and the thing behind it is the microphone adapter that uses the hot shoe and EVF port. I don't know whether they are two units with the mike mounted in a 3.5mm jack on the front of the adapter, or whether they're one piece, a microphone that can only be used with the M. Does that mean, if you are taking video and want to use a stereo microphone, you cannot have the EVF mounted? That would mean having to use the rear LCD which is less than 100% satisfactory. I don't know if there is an alternative location for the microphone on the accessory hand grip. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted November 1, 2012 Share #8 Posted November 1, 2012 Does that mean, if you are taking video and want to use a stereo microphone, you cannot have the EVF mounted? That would mean having to use the rear LCD which is less than 100% satisfactory. I don't know if there is an alternative location for the microphone on the accessory hand grip. Wilson Yes, this is correct and was discussed in the first reviews. Remember you can also use the rangefinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 1, 2012 Share #9 Posted November 1, 2012 Yes, this is correct and was discussed in the first reviews. Remember you can also use the rangefinder. ....but if you are using a zoom lens, you would really want live view. Video is the only reason I would buy a mid range zoom lens (I have already bought an 80-200 Vario Elmar R). It does sound a bit of a design error and you might have thought that at the stage of deciding how to mount and connect the stereo mic, someone might have said: "hang on guys - that doesn't really work. We need to be able to use the EVF with the mic at the same time. " Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted November 1, 2012 I realize that this is a pre-production unit and that we are not seeing full size images but the thing that stood out to me was the lack of detail in skin and clothing. Everything was so smooth much like Canon images. I supose that is ok if that is what you are going for but the current CCD images have much more detail (even using the Noctilux). Did anyone notice the lack of micro-contrast (I'm only talking about the infocus images as there were quite a few out of focus shots)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 1, 2012 Share #11 Posted November 1, 2012 These images do not look that well-processed to me - from what I understand the image quality of this sensor is outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted November 1, 2012 Share #12 Posted November 1, 2012 I'd agree - impossible to assess the IQ from the M-240 on the basis of these snaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm_user Posted November 1, 2012 Share #13 Posted November 1, 2012 Looks like a fake site to me. Pics appear to be taken with an iphone with backgrounds blurred in pp. Someone looking to make fun of Leica fans I only looked at the 1st two pages - pretty bad photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted November 1, 2012 The images taken later are much better (after the first couple of pages). There are pictures of the camera so I don't think it is a fake site as it is the Leica club's site in Hong Kong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted November 1, 2012 Share #15 Posted November 1, 2012 and no EXIF at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 1, 2012 Share #16 Posted November 1, 2012 Erick- nice spread of lenses. I know the 50 is 1.4, but any others? I would love to see what I could do with that M9 in France. Could you kindly PM me the current prices for nearly new M9 ? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted November 1, 2012 Share #17 Posted November 1, 2012 Erick- nice spread of lenses. I know the 50 is 1.4, but any others?.Hello Louismy lenses : Leica Elmarit 28mm f/2.8 ASPH Leica Summilux 35mm f/1.4 ASPH Leica Summilux 50mm f/1.4 ASPH Leica APO Summicron 90mm f/2.0 ASPH Leica APO-TELYT 135mm f/3.4 but I think you have them all :-) I send you a PM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianM Posted November 1, 2012 Share #18 Posted November 1, 2012 I'm guessing Leica knows very well what we expect in terms of frame lines and will have (most) everything sorted by the time our greedy little hands take delivery of the full production models.. I've been thinking, it might be possible for the M to only light up one frameline at a time. They won't need 6 individual LED's, just 2 LED sets. One set for the 28, 35 and 50mm (outer set), and another for the 75, 90 and 135 framelines (inner set) The camera can detect what lens is fitted via 6bit code and activate the proper LED, the mechanical frameline mask will do the rest. For uncoded lenses, I guess the camera can light up both LED's and illuminate a pair of framelines like the M9. We'll find out soon I guess.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 1, 2012 Share #19 Posted November 1, 2012 ....but if you are using a zoom lens, you would really want live view. Video is the only reason I would buy a mid range zoom lens (I have already bought an 80-200 Vario Elmar R). It does sound a bit of a design error and you might have thought that at the stage of deciding how to mount and connect the stereo mic, someone might have said: "hang on guys - that doesn't really work. We need to be able to use the EVF with the mic at the same time. " Wilson I think you need to use the McGyver baseplate if you want to use the EVF and external microphones; at least, that's what I understood from the London video. I'm not a buyer. I like the idea of live view (for framing and focusing a variety of non-CRF lenses), but seeing the camera with all that clutter attached left me very happy with my M9. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Mandeville Posted November 1, 2012 Share #20 Posted November 1, 2012 I realize that this is a pre-production unit and that we are not seeing full size images but the thing that stood out to me was the lack of detail in skin and clothing. Everything was so smooth much like Canon images. I supose that is ok if that is what you are going for but the current CCD images have much more detail (even using the Noctilux). Did anyone notice the lack of micro-contrast (I'm only talking about the infocus images as there were quite a few out of focus shots)? Man, you guys are tough! These are purported to be in-camera JPEGs with no post production, shot in very dim light at ISO 2000 at f/1.0 and as slow as 1/15th a second, most likely hand-held!!!! Cut them a little slack. They look pretty good to me, considering all that. I am sure once we have production models in our hands, we will all be oohing and ahhing over the detail and microcontrast of this new sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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