Rubber hood cap for Hood No. 12536?

[Leitzmac]

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Hello all,

 

I posted the following on the 'User Forum', but didn't get any closer to finding the correct hood. A respondent there suggested I try here so here goes:

 

Do Leica make a rubber hood cap for the Elmarit 28mm (mine is a variation of the third version), hood code is 12536? I have one for my Summicron 35mm (hood code 12526, rubber cap code 14043) and when looking at the edge of the Elmarit hood I can see lips on the edge similar to those on the Summicron hood, but when I went into my local Leica dealer they said they'd never seen one.

 

If anyone knows whether they exist (I'm presuming they must as Leica would hardly make a hood with lips if they didn't) please let me know where I might be able to find one.

 

Many thanks in advance.

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[arnold kaufman]

Arnold here:

Re: the Elmarit 28/2.8 hood cap I have searched all of my Leica books & mountains of other literature & cannot find any pictures of the cap any place

However it is my opinion the cap is a slide or squeeze on type. I did find the cap code it is

14001. Maybe this will help you find the cap.

Possibly you did not recieve any responses is because this cap is nowhere to be found

I Hope the hood code can lead you to the cap.

Regards,

Arnold Kaufman LHSA

Any further help plz let me know.

[luigi bertolotti]

Arnold, are you sure about the 14001 ? I think it's a cap for some M lenses (28 and others) but not of the type to be mounted onto the hood.

[arnold kaufman]

Hi: You are correct 14001 is the cap for this lens. Sorry,I am looking at a book Identifying

Leica lenses by Ghester Sartorius where he lists hood caps, front caps lenses etc.Strange

there is no listing for the Elmarit 28/2.8 third version hood cap

I have several M lenses with shades & caps,but not a 28/2.8 third version.What does this

shade look like ? do you have a picture.I am a Leica collector of SM & BM lenses, cameras & accessories, your question has me going.

Arnold

[luigi bertolotti]

Damn, these little details make collectors crazy... it's really a little mistery: I checked my 28 2,8 v3 (11504): it's # 3.168.142, with original box which includes the 12536 hood, the std. front (and rear) cap AND NO MORE: but, as Leitzmac says, the hood HAS the lips that seem intended to mount a cap... that is is nowhere quoted (Sartorius, Laney, Lager...); Lager displays a hood cap... but is for the hood for 28 v4 (11509), and of the "squeeze-grip" kind, no need for lips, that infact are absent for the v4 hood.

Let's wait for some other to join this thread and solve the plot...

[Leitzmac]

Well, chaps, I thought this thread had died long ago! Thank you for your continued interest, I hope someone may yet be able to shed some light on the matter, but my own investigations have, as yet, turned nothing up.

 

I live in hope

[arnold kaufman]

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Well, chaps, I thought this thread had died long ago! Thank you for your continued interest, I hope someone may yet be able to shed some light on the matter, but my own investigations have, as yet, turned nothing up.

 

I live in hope

 

Hi, Arnold here:

I just spoke to a Leica collector friend of mine, he has this lens complete in the original

box. This product came with.

1. Lens.

2. Rear & front cap.

3. Shade.

No shade cap was provided, not even a cutout for shade cap.

I am certain this info is 100% accurate.

Arnold LHSA

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[Leitzmac]

Hi Arnold,

 

Thank you for what appears to be the definitive answer.

 

In view of the fact a rubber cap for that hood does not exist, the search for one ceases!

 

Still, I find it strange that it has the lips akin to the ones on my 35mm 'cron hood - necessary for mounting a hood cap - perhaps Leica originally intended to produce a cap and then scrapped the idea? I guess we'll never know.

 

Best,

 

Al

[Rui]

Hi Leitzmac,

 

I think that the answer from Arnold must be very correct. I bought mine brand new, and it came as Arnold describes, and I also never saw something other.

Cheers,

 

Rui Morais de Sousa

[seneschal]

And more than a decade later, but after the advent of digital printers, I am thinking that a solution may be within reach.

i bought a 14043 thinking it may fit, but without checking the size of the clip on cap. I discover now that it is E39 ve the E49, so yes, indeed 14043 is way too small.

anybody want to buy a brand new boxed 14043??? Or should I keep it as a future spare?

I don’t imagine that the little barbs were moulded into the 12536 if there was never an intention to make a cap, perhaps that intention was never completed.

It is now within our capabilities to do for ourselves what Leica never did.

If I find a solution I will post the answer.

 

 

[seneschal]

Well, just done a bit of a search and for those of us who have wanted a cap for the 12536 hood, it looks like someone has created one.

i have just ordered this on eBay, it looks pretty good but will take a few weeks to arrive from the US.

I‘ll report back with a photo on fit and usability once I have received and tried it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365029942403?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mz6ruhkhtw-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pfh9nSORQee&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[lct]

Good idea but this hood has never had a hood cap and its retaining nubs are not designed to prevent a DIY hood cap from falling off i'm afraid. Not that i have any experience with that hood but its nubs look exactly like those of the 12524 hood for Summicron 35/2 v4 that have the same problems. FWIW.

Edit: I said retaining nubs but those nubs were not made to retain anything, just to help handing the hoods if memory serves.

Edited November 22, 2024 by lct

[Anbaric]

Even the 14043 hood cap doesn't work terribly well on a hood that is designed to use it. Mine easily falls off, but a third party unbranded 3D-printed replacement from ebay is much more secure, so I wouldn't be surprised if the hood that @seneschal found is a good solution.

Incidentally, there seem to be a lot of new '14043' hood caps from China on ebay right now that claim to be genuine Leica caps, complete with branded boxes. These look moulded rather than 3D-printed, at least in the photos, but I assume they are fakes. Potentially quite useful fakes, since Leica no longer make them, but presumably with the design flaws of the original.

[lct]

IMO the main problem is not the hood that much but the nubs that are not designed to retain it.

[lct]

Sorry i meant the main problem is not the hood cap that much but the nubs of the hood that are not designed to retain a cap.

[seneschal]

I have today received the 3D printed hood cap for which which I posted a link and have tried it out.

it works perfectly! I am delighted, the barbs on the side of the hood interlock precisely and snugly with the cap. Leica's original intention is fulfilled.

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The finish is better than expected it looks „LIKE A“ genuine Leica part, although we all know that it isn’t.

if anything it appears more like something that has been injection moulded rather than 3d printed. It lacks the usual obvious lines that are often easily visible from the layering process, but it is nylon I think, not rubber.

The cap also has a textured finish which is pleasing.

What a surprise, but this challenge which Leica set for us is now resolved in my opinion. I would recommend.

Please see photos.