jonoslack Posted May 17, 2012 Share #1 Posted May 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) HI There This is the second part of the experiment - Thank you so much for chipping in on the cormorant fisherman (which is still available for download for a day or so). There is also a potential problem with dropbox limits - I do pay for it, so there is a larger daily limit, but please don't download the file over and over again. If this is a success, then I'll be able to make other files available. I'm doing it through my website so that my son can amuse himself with the metrics! You can play with the file, and then you can post your conversion on this thread. Enjoy! Click on the Downloads link on the top right This is my take - I'm sure you can do better Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If interest continues, I'll post a high ISO file tomorrow all the best Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If interest continues, I'll post a high ISO file tomorrow all the best Jonathan ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016412'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Hi jonoslack, Take a look here Fun with MM DNG files - 2 - The Girl with the Shawl. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
vdb Posted May 17, 2012 Share #2 Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks Jono. Love working these files. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016428'>More sharing options...
skinner Posted May 17, 2012 Share #3 Posted May 17, 2012 My new favourite threads, thanks Jono! Cheers Steve Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016437'>More sharing options...
chrism Posted May 17, 2012 Share #4 Posted May 17, 2012 This is fun! Thanks, Jono. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Chris Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Chris ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016440'>More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 17, 2012 Share #5 Posted May 17, 2012 Here's a 16 bit linear conversion using dcraw ... no adjustment at all only downsizing for the web. The MM files doesn't need any post processing except maybe a slight curve IMO -, they are good to go right out of the box. :-) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016449'>More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 17, 2012 Share #6 Posted May 17, 2012 I've left the framing as it was (which may be a bit anal), but added a little vignetting to draw attention to the girl's eyes. I rather feel that your original version might be hard to improve on Jono! That hotspot (reflection off a lamp?) to the left of the giral should probably come out, or be damped in Photoshop. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016460'>More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted May 17, 2012 Share #7 Posted May 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) It seems an awful lot like an M9 file without color. In my workflow, not having the ability to use the B&W channel mixer makes it harder to get the tones I'm used to getting. Lightroom 4 is pretty awesome at taming that hotter area over by the bicycle wheel, even with the curve being switched to medium contrast. I used AlienSkin Exposure 4 on tri-x 400 to grain it up a little. I suppose it's good. That wasn't the mondo expensive 50 Summicron was it? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016462'>More sharing options...
Hosermage Posted May 18, 2012 Share #8 Posted May 18, 2012 Maybe a bit too dramatic, but... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016477'>More sharing options...
lct Posted May 18, 2012 Share #9 Posted May 18, 2012 Very nice. Reminds me of my M8.2 with more resolution. Hardly more DR though at first glance. CS3 + Silver Efex (8 MB file). http://tinyurl.com/79oxy85 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 18, 2012 Share #10 Posted May 18, 2012 . FWIW - A cropped view at near actual pixels reveals some interesting qualities. No, this is not an improvement of the photographer's photo, it is only an abstraction for illustration. It reminds me of Tech Pan film, and that is a good thing. The 'micro-contrast' is astounding! If I get an M9m I will have to eat beans and rice for six months, and I blame (thank) the photographer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted May 18, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 18, 2012 Thank you very much for making these available Jonathan. That is extremely good of you. I shall try each and post web versions to your thread. I initially had problems downloading the files then found the solution here. https://www.dropbox.com/help/201 Perhaps that may be useful to others who like me may not be very competent with Dropbox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted May 18, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks so much for posting these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 18, 2012 Share #13 Posted May 18, 2012 No argument here but, it was NOT intended to show what can be done ... just to demo what a straight linear conversion would look like. Please accept my apology. I'm tired and crabby. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 18, 2012 Share #14 Posted May 18, 2012 Please accept my apology. I'm tired and crabby.. That's alright, pico - you're such a gentleman ... I didn't realize you've already removed your comment before I responded - that would save me some typing. It's all for fun ... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted May 18, 2012 Share #15 Posted May 18, 2012 No argument here but, it was NOT intended to show what can be done ... just to demo what a straight linear conversion would look like. Thanks for reminding me of dcraw. I think the file you output has linear gamma, which you wouldn't want in a final image. Converting that to 2.2 in PS gives a flat, but pleasing image to work from, a lot like a flat scan. A quick curves layer and I got an image very similar to what I got in LR. It's a nice way to compare to a baseline. That's the beauty of B&W, in my mind - you can really do a lot to them, because all you can do is change the tonality. Kind of an dichotomy, but not really. It's just you don't have to worry about the color data at all while affecting the tonality, so it let's you mess with it with more impunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted May 18, 2012 Share #16 Posted May 18, 2012 Jono: This is very nice of you to do! I've been away from the forum for a while, but the MM has drawn me back in. Anyway, here are 2 renderings: First one using SilverEffex and 2nd one using LR. I like the SilverEffex better (especially in larger size on my screen) -- seems to do a nice job with these files! (Weird to move the saturation slider around in LR, just for fun, and have nothing happen) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016516'>More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 18, 2012 Share #17 Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks for reminding me of dcraw. I think the file you output has linear gamma, which you wouldn't want in a final image. Converting that to 2.2 in PS gives a flat, but pleasing image to work from, a lot like a flat scan. A quick curves layer and I got an image very similar to what I got in LR. It's a nice way to compare to a baseline. That's a very nice suggestion, Tim ... fortunately, dcraw allows to apply gamma from the command line so I can bypass the limitations in PS/LR/C1 and a save a lot of work from the beginning. Cheers, Simon Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016524'>More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted May 18, 2012 Share #18 Posted May 18, 2012 We are obviously size limited in what we can post here. I took the liberty of a large crop to try to give some indication of just how detailed and clean these files are. Viewing Jonathan's samples at 100% could be very dangerous to your bank balance. Please forgive my butchering of your photograph for pixel peeping purposes, Jonathan! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179753-fun-with-mm-dng-files-2-the-girl-with-the-shawl/?do=findComment&comment=2016526'>More sharing options...
tgray Posted May 18, 2012 Share #19 Posted May 18, 2012 That's a very nice suggestion, Tim ... fortunately, dcraw allows to apply gamma from the command line so I can bypass the limitations in PS/LR/C1 and a save a lot of work from the beginning. So it does. Nice. Slap a nice S-shaped curve on that image and it looks great. I have a couple of gamma 1.0 profiles I made that mirror AdobeRGB, sRGB, and Grayscale 2.2, but with gamma 1.0 (obviously). They let you bring gamma 1 images into PS, assign the profile, and the convert to the counterpart with proper gamma very quickly. I've found it useful in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted May 18, 2012 Share #20 Posted May 18, 2012 Regardless of the renderings, I really like your sample picture of the girl, Jonathan. Congrats. And like fellow contributors, I'm amazed by the crops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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