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Is the X1 just a $2,000 P&S?


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Ok, I'm starting to think this isn't just a P&S. It has four things that I wish higher end P&S-es would have (or not have) but never do...

 

1) Fixed Lens

2) Dedicated Shutter Speed Dial

3) Dedicated Aperture Dial

4) No Video Mode

 

These things make this a more "serious" camera IMHO. Why? Because P&S-ers don't really want any of those three "features" and don't want to do without video modes.

 

This really is a digital camera for old school type users. The type that only use one body and one lens.

 

If you like cameras that don't have a lot of things I suggest trying a pinhole camera. And if you lean towards the luxury editions you can have them in mahogany with brass fittings. :D

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I fully agree, that's also why I sell all my Nikon equipment and now go for the X1. I didn't use all the functions on my D200 and was more busy with technical things than composing a good image.

 

Absolutely. Simplicity is the key to creativity. You use the tool that suits your needs. Bells and whistles actually complicate the creative process in my opinion.

 

Shoot DNG, forget about white balance as that can be sorted in post production. When you use 1 focal length for a period of time its very liberating i find. I did a 2 year photo story about an English football club. I used just a 35mm Lux and a 50mm Lux on an M6. Only used Tri X as well. More recently i shot an 8 year story about Brighton Beach. I used leica M and medium format and again the focal length i used most was 35 and 50mm.

 

The point is one of simplicity with the least amount of gizmos. Everyone is different..

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Forgive my ignorance, I've just discovered there is a Leica X1 coming soon. But what is it exactly that justifies a $2,000 price tag for what looks basically like a P&S camera to me, albeit a very «chic» one, with a «Leica» lens (the Panasonic LX--3 also has a «Leica» lens, as does the D-Lux 4, at a fifth of the price) without viewfinder, and with an APS-C size sensor (is it the same as in Nikon's D300?) Which means the «Elmarit» 24 mm will become a standard 35 mm, right? Sorry, but I don't get it. Am I missing something?

 

Sure it is a P&S if you DO want to use it like that: that is Point & Shoot. But this is also where similarities with other P&S end.

It's also the best P&S as far as Image quality counts and best ISO performance for night shots

It's also the simplest one

It's silent and compact.

And one can learn photography on it as its a tool that can easily go from fully auto (p&s if you like) to fully manual, with everything in between.

So, more or less, thats why it costs 2k$

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It's a 'stepping stone' camera. Someone can upgrade from a typical P&S camera and find it all very familar, LCD 'viewfinder', motorized lens etc., but with manual override for times when they want to experiment more with exposure.

 

Their next step will most likely be a Leica M camera or whatever other digital camera Leica may have in mind.

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If you like cameras that don't have a lot of things I suggest trying a pinhole camera. And if you lean towards the luxury editions you can have them in mahogany with brass fittings. :D

 

Been there and done that about 14 years ago ...

 

I love digital, but I also love manual focus (well, on M cameras anyway) and using no auto settings... though with the X1 I will use the AF, not MF.

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It is a camera that was designed for one and only purpose: taking pictures. And for that purpose it is darn well made. Extremely simple and goal oriented menu system and function controls, ergonomic design in a small package.

P.S. See my post @ http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-x1-forum/116472-x1-first-impressions.html

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