efftee Posted September 9, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought I heard the X1 was designed and made in Solms. But Sean mentioned that it's made in Japan, though not by Panasonic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Hi efftee, Take a look here Where is X1 made?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest BigSplash Posted September 9, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2009 I thought I heard the X1 was designed and made in Solms. But Sean mentioned that it's made in Japan, though not by Panasonic! Stefan said it was built at Solms by skilled technicians..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted September 9, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2009 Japan by skilled technicians.... Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted September 9, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2009 conjecture...after conjecture. Maybe there is a forum member who actually knows where it is made - or even has a friend at Solms who will tell him. Perhaps Nikon electronics shipped to Solms where the body and lens are being made - Thats my wild guess. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted September 9, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2009 conjecture...after conjecture. Maybe there is a forum member who actually knows where it is made - There will be a guy who says that he knows but is not allowed to tell us; maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted September 9, 2009 The web cast transcript on 100noisycameras states that Stefan did say 'X1 is hand-assembled and inspected in factory in Germany'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Made in Germany", even with the well known limitations of meaning, is clearly engraved in the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 9, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2009 Hmmm, wondering now is it a 'real' Leica lens or do Panasonic make them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted September 9, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2009 It's definitely assembled and checked in Solms - I think similar to the M7/MP I don't know where the parts do come from - this wasn't mentioned during the event in NY. Regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 9, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 9, 2009 Obviously, enough of the assembly takes place in Germany for Leica to say "Made in Germany." But it also looks obvious to me that the body starts with a subcontractor. Michael Reichman (Leica X1 First Impressions) says two things of interest here: 1) "Now, let's see. Who makes a 1.5X CMOS sensor in this size?" (the answer is probably the camera maker) 2) "And – who know [sic]? Maybe there'll even be another contender in the ring by then [early December]." (sounds as if the manufacturer may be coming with his own version) Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 9, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 9, 2009 Obviously, enough of the assembly takes place in Germany for Leica to say "Made in Germany." But obviously, Leica has subcontractors. Michael Reichman (Leica X1 First Impressions) says two things of interest here: 1) "Now, let's see. Who makes a 1.5X CMOS sensor in this size?" (the answer is probably the camera maker) 2) "And – who know [sic]? Maybe there'll even be another contender in the ring by then [early December]." (sounds as if the manufacturer may be coming with his own version) Anybody know? I've always suspected it's Samsung ... Howard. The closest thing to the X1 is the soon-to-be-announced Samsung NX10 which also sports a 1.5x 12MP CMOS. Since Andreas has clarified that the final assembly was deifnitely done in Solms, so I guess it's really the parts sourced from many other places. Makes no difference to me as long as it works. When it comes electronics, I'm actually feeling more comfortable when it's made in Asia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted September 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2009 Most companies sub-out for various components. Is there a point? Daniels said it that it's made in Solms. The camera says Made in Germany. If a component comes from another part of the planet so? Again, what's the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted September 9, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 9, 2009 According to today's review of the M9 and the X1 on the digitalkamera.de website, the Leica X1 is assembled by hand in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 9, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 9, 2009 The only real issue is if we will see or not a very similar camera, with another brand, on the market some months from now. With Panasonic has been, historically, the inverse, but they could have made a different deal with someone else : Samsung is a not uneven possibility... they are much less agressive than Panasonic on bringing out new products at a quick rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 9, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 9, 2009 ... Is there a point? ... I don't think anyone feels there's a problem. It's just curiosity. We know the M8 had a Japanese shutter, was made primarily in Portugal, then underwent final assembly in Solms. We know Leica uses glass made by various manufacturers, but today's lenses are "made in Germany." If it's got a red dot, it's got Leica quality. Country of origin isn't important to the product. But a lot of us like to know as much as we can about cameras we're interested in. Remember all the speculation that the Digilux 1's lens was the same as the lens in the Canon p&s of the same generation? Enquiring minds want to know. And as Luigi said, if a camera turns up that looks a lot like the X1, we'd like to be forearmed. Simon-- Thanks for the information! I hadn't heard about the Samsung camera, and it's a brand that hadn't occurred to me. But they're Korean, aren't they? Certainly you're not implying that someone said Japan when he meant Korea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 9, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 9, 2009 Most companies sub-out for various components. Is there a point? Daniels said it that it's made in Solms. The camera says Made in Germany. If a component comes from another part of the planet so? Again, what's the point? Point for me is whether the lens was subbed out or actually made by Leica. If it's a genuine Leica lens then the price is pretty good. Of course loads of parts will have been subbed out, including the sensor, but the lens is after all Leica's raison d'etre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 9, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 9, 2009 Well, Howard ... Samsung has a good track record supplying CMOS sensors to the Pentax DSLRs and I don't see why they can't supply the sensor to Leica, in terms of spec. the X1 is simply too ckose to the NX1. Of course, other parts could come from Japan. I could be wrong but this is certainly one possibility. Luigi, one should never underestimate Samsung, in semiconductor, cell phone, and flat panel industries they are way ahead of Panasonic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 9, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 9, 2009 What is known about the sensor clearly points towards Sony whereas the 11-point autofocus with face-recognition seems to be directly lifted from a Panasonic digicam (the FZ38 and other recent models sport a similar AF). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgmb Posted September 9, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 9, 2009 Since this CMOS sensor is not custom made for Leica like the Kodak CCD sensors are, does anyone know whether it has an AA filter... or will Leica remove it to retain the sharpness of the lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 9, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 9, 2009 I've thought about Sony but just had a hard time believing it, Michael ... most people who have worked in a Japanese company will tell you that making Sony and Panasonic work together is kind of ... a magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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