Samir Jahjah Posted September 7, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the maximum price beyond which you will NOT purchase the M9? Please specify your currency. For me: $6500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adli Posted September 7, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 7, 2009 What is the maximum price beyond which you will NOT purchase the M9? Please specify your currency. For me: $6500 I don't see what value these kind polls brings to the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chouhsin Posted September 7, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 7, 2009 For me. 1500 Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 7, 2009 A French dealer is apparently listing it at €5,500 = about $7900 = £4850. Sounds about what we expected. I hope the British price might be as low as £4500 but that is probably wishful thinking, unless Leica hedged pounds when the UK currency was stronger. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 7, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 7, 2009 I wonder what sense it makes to broadcast this kind off personal decision - which is variable by the day with most people anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 7, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 7, 2009 Wilson - don't include european VAT when figuring US prices - we don't pay it. IF €5,500 is correct (incl. VAT) then US price will be $6700-ish. The gray area for me begins at $7500 - "No sale" begins at $9,000 (local sales tax included) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wilson - don't include european VAT when figuring US prices - we don't pay it. IF €5,500 is correct (incl. VAT) then US price will be $6700-ish. The gray area for me begins at $7500 - "No sale" begins at $9,000 (local sales tax included) Andy, Having just been in the USA for the last month, I seem to recall most states I was in, other than New Hampshire, have a sales tax. As a "foreigner" I found it very irritating that displayed/quoted prices never included tax. In Europe, in shops, what you see is what you pay. Online sites sometimes include VAT and sometimes not. It made a huge difference on hotel prices, to which the quoted price per night then had state tax, environmental tax, town visitor tax, state visitor tax, etc (towelage?) all added. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 7, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 7, 2009 Quite right regarding sales taxes. The flip side is that us Yanks can tell how much the real product costs - and how much we are paying to the government for the "privilege" of buying it. There is an oddity in the laws such that interstate sales (i.e. mail-orders) are usually not taxed by either the selling or buying locality. Therefore a purchase from, say, B&H in NY state - OUTSIDE NY state - is not taxed. The other oddity is that sales taxes are extremely localized - down to the city level. Something like 7,500 different taxing jurisdictions by one estimate. And that seems low to me given that each state sets a statewide tax, and each county sets a sales tax rate on top of that, and each city may have its own tax on top of those. I don't claim it makes sense - but it does mean that Leica USA cannot set a tax-included price (nor can any other retailer) - therefore the convention in the US is to list the product price separate from taxes. IF - and that is still an if until Wed. - the Euro price is €500 more than the current M8.2 price, the listed PRICE for an M9 will be around $6,700. No other way to figure it. The sales tax for the location of my camera store can be figured here: https://www.taxview.state.co.us/querytaxrates.aspx?id=11&name=Jefferson - which seems to come out about 8%. So an M9 COST then would be $7,236 - for me, in Littleton, CO. Still quite a bit below your direct translation from Euros ($7,900). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted September 7, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 7, 2009 Will free up funds by selling other gear rather than bother to much about the M9 price. One M8, CV 15, Cron 75, Tri Elmar, and presumably the Elmarit 24 will be sold. Looking forward using a classic 21, 28, 50, 90 set up on a FF digital M. And a 35 for a one lens solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 7, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 7, 2009 Sorry but anything over $5000.00 US Dollars is out for me. Leica is becoming ridiculous with there pricing. For me at least. My M8 still works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 7, 2009 Sorry but anything over $5000.00 US Dollars is out for me. Leica is becoming ridiculous with there pricing. For me at least. My M8 still works. Ed, ......for now it does. As of Wednesday morning CET, the built in self destruct module activates, thereby forcing you to buy an M9. There was a fault in some of these modules, when they activated early = SDS ;-}} Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted September 7, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 7, 2009 Ed, ......for now it does. As of Wednesday morning CET, the built in self destruct module activates, thereby forcing you to buy an M9. There was a fault in some of these modules, when they activated early = SDS ;-}} Wilson Wilson, Should that actually happen -- and nothing would surprise me anymore -- my lenses would become orphans except for occasionally being snapped onto my M7. Leica may have no direct competition, but there is competition. Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 7, 2009 Ed, ......for now it does. As of Wednesday morning CET, the built in self destruct module activates, thereby forcing you to buy an M9. There was a fault in some of these modules, when they activated early = SDS ;-}} Wilson ...that's why I am thinking to bring BACK the date of my M8 ... something VERY BAD on 9/9/9 could be misteriously activated, indeed.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted September 7, 2009 I just realized the current M8.2 sells for $5995 in a famous store in New York! I guess this sets the minimum price for the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted September 7, 2009 I just realized the current M8.2 sells for $5995 in a famous store in New York! I guess this sets the minimum price for the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 7, 2009 What is the maximum price beyond which you will NOT purchase the M9? Please specify your currency. For me: $6500 The basic question is someway nonsense ... personal spending attitudes are very fluctuating ; we can discuss and speculate on the basic list pricing of M9, of course: my guess is that (supposing M8.2 out of the price list) it can stand between 10 and 20% more of last M8.2 pricelist.... let'say around 15% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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