michali Posted September 2, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've kept myself well out of the M9 speculation threads so far. I've read some with great interest, amusement and others with irritation. I've just spoken to my Leica dealer on a lens related issue and during our chat he told me the following: There's definitely an M9 being released next week, he says he's seen the pics of it, shipping in October. Body is about 1cm taller than the M8, Full Frame, 18MP, 5 frames per second, twin battery pack, LED display on the top showing additional exposure info. picture display is larger than the current display. Price is EURO5, 500- The M8 he says is discontinued, however the M8.2 will still be produced. Oh yes and I asked about the IR issue he says there's no word from Leica on this, only the good news. The R solution according to him is a camera along the lines of the Panasonic G1, he mentioned the name "GRF" which will be a 1/2 frame and has the same adaptors as the G1 that will take both R & M lenses. Nothing too different from all the speculation so far here, but possibly a bit more detail. He's very excited and says business has picked up tremendously with orders for the M9. Let's see................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Hi michali, Take a look here M9 specs according to my dealer. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted September 2, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 2, 2009 I don't think a half-frame R solution would be acceptable to R users. That would only acelerate the exodus to Canon and Nikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 2, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 2, 2009 I don't think a half-frame R solution would be acceptable to R users. That would only acelerate the exodus to Canon and Nikon The exodus from Leica to Nikon/Canon took place 30-40 years ago when the SLR replaced the rangefinder as the prefered tool of most photojournalists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 2, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 2, 2009 I am not a R user with a stock of fine lenses... but if I were one, a solution based on a 4/3 camera would be laughable and someway irritating : what's new in this ? You can do it right now without Leica puts its stamp on... Herr Daniel spoke of a "solution" and this one wouldn't be. Apart this... so your dealer is pretty comfortable about M9... fine ... my dealer only knows about the announcement (but Brescia is a little town... .... he admittely sold "8 or 9" M8 in 2,5 years, mine included...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondeb Posted September 2, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2009 "5 frames per second, twin battery pack, LED display on the top..." huh? Sounds unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 2, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2009 I am not a R user with a stock of fine lenses... but if I were one, a solution based on a 4/3 camera would be laughable and someway irritating : what's new in this ? You can do it right now without Leica puts its stamp on... Herr Daniel spoke of a "solution" and this one wouldn't be. I am an R user with a stock of fine lenses and agree with what you say Luigi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted September 2, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Twin battery pack" - without any AF motors to drive?? Sounds strange, unless there are packaging reasons. But still, that would be strange. Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 2, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2009 The exodus from Leica to Nikon/Canon took place 30-40 years ago when the SLR replaced the rangefinder as the prefered tool of most photojournalists. We're talking about the R system here. I think that never caught on with photojournalists.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted September 2, 2009 Apart this... so your dealer is pretty comfortable about M9... fine ... my dealer only knows about the announcement (but Brescia is a little town... .... he admittely sold "8 or 9" M8 in 2,5 years, mine included...) Luigi- he says it's no question it is definitely happening, he's put me down for an M9 before asking me. If he is right about an M9 release, I would prefer to wait before buying one and see what glitches and issues present themselves, as happened with the early M8 models. Hopefully though a lot has been learned and things may be different this time around. Having said this I am still very happy with both my original M8 & M8.2, touch wood, I've never had the issues I've read about here, even though mine have been all over Africa with me in some fairly harsh conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 2, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2009 I really hope it's not 1cm taller, maybe it would be ok if the extra 'height' is below the lens - about the size of a leicavit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 2, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2009 We're talking about the R system here. I think that never caught on with photojournalists.... You're taling about the R system, I am talking about the exodus from Leica to the japanese There can't be an exodus if Leica abandons the R-system, because it already happened years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted September 2, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2009 Might be time to change your dealer - and certainly to consider not believing everything he tells you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 2, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 2, 2009 You're taling about the R system, I am talking about the exodus from Leica to the japanese There can't be an exodus if Leica abandons the R-system, because it already happened years ago Whatever. I am hanging on to my R until my DMR kicks the dust. And then I'll get a Canon 55D mk LXV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted September 2, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2009 I am not a R user with a stock of fine lenses... but if I were one, a solution based on a 4/3 camera would be laughable and someway irritating : what's new in this ? You can do it right now without Leica puts its stamp on... Herr Daniel spoke of a "solution" and this one wouldn't be. Apart this... so your dealer is pretty comfortable about M9... fine ... my dealer only knows about the announcement (but Brescia is a little town... .... he admittely sold "8 or 9" M8 in 2,5 years, mine included...) Just a thought: would it be possible to construct an adapter with optics (expensive probably) that would somehow, and telecentrically of course, project the whole image of the R lens on the M4/3 sensor? (I am a simple lawyer so please do not bite me (or else I would sue you ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidada Posted September 2, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2009 Check this out on German panasonic site - I think this is the X1 Produkte - Lumix Digitalkameras - Lumix G - LUMIX G Micro System: Die neue GF1 - Pop-Up Aufstecksucher - Deutschland & Österreich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 2, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2009 Just a thought: would it be possible to construct an adapter with optics (expensive probably) that would somehow, and telecentrically of course, project the whole image of the R lens on the M4/3 sensor? (I am a simple lawyer so please do not bite me (or else I would sue you ) In theory, yes, is the "anamorphic lens" principle largely used in cinema (they "shrink" the image in the 35 mm format with proper cine lenses, then "de-shrink" it via projector's lenses onto the screen (do you remember the old term "cinemascope" ?), which has an aspect ratio ( L x H) larger than the 35 mm format. Of course... it would be difficult to make, costly and would add "dirt" to the neat R lenses... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted September 2, 2009 Check this out on German panasonic site - I think this is the X1 Produkte - Lumix Digitalkameras - Lumix G - LUMIX G Micro System: Die neue GF1 - Pop-Up Aufstecksucher - Deutschland & Österreich Have a look here as well: Panasonic unveils DMC-GF1 Micro four-thirds camera: Digital Photography Review Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 2, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2009 Check this out on German panasonic site - I think this is the X1 Produkte - Lumix Digitalkameras - Lumix G - LUMIX G Micro System: Die neue GF1 - Pop-Up Aufstecksucher - Deutschland & Österreich nice but you would need live view on an M for it to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 2, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2009 Check this out on German panasonic site - I think this is the X1 Produkte - Lumix Digitalkameras - Lumix G - LUMIX G Micro System: Die neue GF1 - Pop-Up Aufstecksucher - Deutschland & Österreich Leica Rumors : for me, they photoshopped something else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted September 2, 2009 Reading through the specs of this new Panasonic GF1, what my dealer said would make sense insofar as a repackaged Panasonic being released as a "Leica GRF" which could take M & R lenses via adaptors. Panasonic unveils DMC-GF1 Micro four-thirds camera: Digital Photography Review Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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