scsambrook Posted September 1, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I confess that I haven't seen all the thoughts on the M9 but wonder (if indeed we see it on 09/09/09) whether it will have image stabilisation? That does indeed seem one highly valuable benefit in a camera which lends itself so well to low light photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adli Posted September 1, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2009 I confess that I haven't seen all the thoughts on the M9 but wonder (if indeed we see it on 09/09/09) whether it will have image stabilisation? That does indeed seem one highly valuable benefit in a camera which lends itself so well to low light photography. It will not. EoD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 1, 2009 No. Most image stabilisation systems are situated in the optical system and M lenses do not offer that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertW Posted September 1, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 1, 2009 Its taken 2 years to come up with a new camera, which might have features such as: - better low light capabilities, - an ISO button on the camera (rather than in the menus), and perhaps - possibly FF in a reasonably sized package Now you mention image stabilization? Yeah it'd be nice to have, but I'd give a dedicated ISO button a higher likelihood of happening. Best Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils-advocate Posted September 1, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2009 Sadly, there is little chance of IS. The M9 would be a deadly camera with in-body IS a la Olympus. I'd pay for it, but I doubt that Leica could or would get the licenses to adapt an existing technology, and don't have the R&D muscle to make their own. Too bad, those Leica lenses would love us to see what they're capable of without vibration loss! - n. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted September 1, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2009 Drink less coffee and you won't need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 1, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rob's probably right, but I would definately want a M9 with in-camera image stabilization in the Olympus style, ultra fast Leica glass on a image stabilized body would be a very interesting proposition. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted September 1, 2009 Drink less coffee and you won't need it. I've cut back on the coffee, but I certainly could still use it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 1, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2009 Drink less coffee and you won't need it. I know. That's the likely reason for not being able to shoot below 1/45s for me. Its the micro tremors that kill my pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted September 1, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 1, 2009 No. Most image stabilisation systems are situated in the optical system and M lenses do not offer that. Except the Olympus pen E1, which has buid-in image stabilization and can take M-Lenses with the appropriate adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 1, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 1, 2009 ... and don't have the R&D muscle to make their own. ... In light of the many innovations that Leica has produced over the decades, not least its recent innovations such as the M8, the S2 and the 21 Summilux, that's an odd statement to make. Do you have personal knowledge of Leica's R&D resource? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 1, 2009 Except the Olympus pen E1, which has buid-in image stabilization and can take M-Lenses with the appropriate adapter. Contax had that as well. iirc. But still, I think not for the Leica M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted September 1, 2009 No. Most image stabilisation systems are situated in the optical system and M lenses do not offer that. I was thinking that Pentax had incorporated IS successsfully in their later DSLR bodies and it seemed appropriate to wonder if, in the course of developing a new camera, Leica might do the same. I have such a Pentax and find it a real benefit - I often wish I had the same facility in my M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 1, 2009 But, in the camera, it would involve a moving sensor. It would take up space (thickness) and be very difficult to keep within the tolerance needed for the sensor positioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 1, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 1, 2009 But, in the camera, it would involve a moving sensor. It would take up space (thickness) and be very difficult to keep within the tolerance needed for the sensor positioning. There are many cameras out there now with sensor-based IS...Maybe more now than all the Leicas ever sold. BUT... ...Knowing how picky Leica is about all the aspects of IQ (and even bearing in mind the Magenta Debacle) IS would need to result in no degradation of the image. I wouldn't be surprised if Leica engineers have experimented with it. Whether any efforts would result in a product or feature... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 1, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 1, 2009 Leica may have developed a way to vibrate the object in sync with the photographer's hand movements. Object Stabilisation®. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pklein Posted September 1, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 1, 2009 No IS. But Leica is developing a new 50mm f/0.35 Planckennoct, three stops faster than the Noctilux, and one stop faster than the theoretical maximum aperture of a practical lens. The breakthrough design incorporates hyperbolic aspherical surfaces, plus a small black hole at the optical center of the lens. It will take stunning available light photos at ISO 160. The problem is that it will suck all the light out of the room, making it very difficult to focus. And if you leave it uncovered overnight, in the morning your house will be gone. And you won't know where your cat is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 1, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 1, 2009 Leica may have developed a way to vibrate the object in sync with the photographer's hand movements. Object Stabilisation®. Pete. Pete, Ha, ha, ha! You should refrain from those dark brown whiskey on the rocks in the middle of the week. That would indeed help on stabilisation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 1, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 1, 2009 Pete, Ha, ha, ha! You should refrain from those dark brown whiskey on the rocks in the middle of the week. That would indeed help on stabilisation! The more I drunk, the drinker I get. <Hiccup!> Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 1, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 1, 2009 And if you leave it uncovered overnight, in the morning your house will be gone. And you won't know where your cat is. Shouldn't that be "you won't know whether your cat is"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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