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a good photographer certainly doesn't need to use a Leica, and a bad photographer is definately wasting their money if they buy a Leica thinking it will improve their photography.

 

Well, a classic Leica M certainly forces you to think about focus and exposure when you shoot, while with a all auto SLR you can just point and shoot.

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Any car will get you from A to B, but some people choose Jaguars, BMW's or Ferrari's over a Kia. Generally they are as interested in the car itself as they are in motoring as a form of travel.

 

Most people who choose to shoot with Leica are as passionate about the equipement they use as they are about photography itself - a good photographer certainly doesn't need to use a Leica, and a bad photographer is definately wasting their money if they buy a Leica thinking it will improve their photography.

Well, I find it does improve my photography if I use equipment I really like, be it Leica or whatever else...
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Well, a classic Leica M certainly forces you to think about focus and exposure when you shoot, while with a all auto SLR you can just point and shoot.

 

You can also use any DSLR on fully manual with a handheld meter and manual focus. That is not the preserve of a Leica! As well as there being plenty of other cameras out there that are manual focus/exposure.

 

But I agree that equipment you enjoy using is a benefit.

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Some of my favourite pictures were taken many years ago with a nikon F90. If I scan the negatives and I see the files... I wish I had had I M8 in that time. The pictures you take depen on your eye and habilities, but the files you get depens on how good is your camera. I would like to have the best camera possible, not because I will get better pictures, but I will feel more confortable shooting and my files will be better.

If I win the lottery, I will buy the S2 plus many S2 lenses and many many M lenses:p

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Originally Posted by adli

Well, a classic Leica M certainly forces you to think about focus and exposure when you shoot, while with a all auto SLR you can just point and shoot.

 

You can also use any DSLR on fully manual with a handheld meter and manual focus. That is not the preserve of a Leica! As well as there being plenty of other cameras out there that are manual focus/exposure.

 

 

That's true, but they don't force you to go 'manual' every shot you make. There are of course a lot of all manual SLRs out there also, but with todays all auto DSLRS, many new amateurs never learns the principals of how an exposure actually are made.

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with todays all auto DSLRS, many new amateurs never learns the principals of how an exposure actually are made.

 

This argument is made each time some progress is done. Teachers were afraid student would never learn to write properly when we switched to ball-point.

Also, we were supposed not to be able to count anymore because of logarithm tables then to slide rules and finally of pocket calculators...

 

And my grandfather was very sure I was not able to drive at all because progress with manual transmissions made things easier for me.

 

And BTW, do you complain that you are using a browser with a nice graphical user interface to read and post on this forum? Maybe you should do it only with command lines and text editors. This way, you would learn a lot about computers.

 

Amateurs who are really interested in photography will learn exposure, focusing and the rest like their elders did.

And those who just want to take pictures as souvenirs will have an easier time.

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This argument is made each time some progress is done. Teachers were afraid student would never learn to write properly when we switched to ball-point.

Also, we were supposed not to be able to count anymore because of logarithm tables then to slide rules and finally of pocket calculators...

 

And my grandfather was very sure I was not able to drive at all because progress with manual transmissions made things easier for me.

 

And BTW, do you complain that you are using a browser with a nice graphical user interface to read and post on this forum? Maybe you should do it only with command lines and text editors. This way, you would learn a lot about computers.

 

Amateurs who are really interested in photography will learn exposure, focusing and the rest like their elders did.

And those who just want to take pictures as souvenirs will have an easier time.

 

I think you misunderstand my point. Maybe my posting was a bit unclear.

 

My point was not that everybody should use a manual camera, but that the nice thing about a manual camera is that it makes you think when you use it. People should use the camera that fits their needs, but if one wants to be challenged by the camera, a camera that makes you think should be a nice choice.

 

Btw, discussions on the net haven't improved with the introduction of GUI, it have only made the discussion forums more accessible

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Btw, discussions on the net haven't improved with the introduction of GUI, it have only made the discussion forums more accessible

 

I disagree, I think discussions have improved as a decent GUI encourages people to post, and the more people that post the more interesting the forum.

 

If you want to see a dreadful GUI take a look at this - appologies in advance for the cheesy 'picture of the week'...

 

http://www.bwphotographyforum.com/

 

How on earth can you follow threads with something like that? I thought Photo.net was bad, but this is in a different league.

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