alun Posted August 5, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I posted this in Rolo's thread on the recent Guardian article by Jonathan Glancey on the M6 (headed M6 – The Classic). But just in case readers don't see it there I have taken the liberty of reposting as a new thread here..... I wonder whether you or other posters will have a view on my question. I am in the mood for pure indulgence -- a treat. Now, before the whole forum yells, "A black paint MP," let me say that this isn't (I don't think) on the cards, for several reasons. (a) Price (the biggest factor). ( Lack of a 0.58 finder variant in black rather than chrome (I use a 0.58 M6ttl and M7 and have *never* looked through the viewfinder of a standard .72. If I did and found that my eye relief with a 35/2 was better -- or not as bad as feared -- then I might still be tempted.). © Ostentation (or my suspicion of it). Anyway, to somewhat contradict what I have just written, I have seen a titanium M6 at a very reasonable price and am quite tempted. It looks nice, it's beautifully made and covered, and I guess it would make a nice addition to mount a 50/2 on. So: sensible or stupid? Ostentation or reasonable treat? (Please leave aside arguments about relative value, discretionary spending, utility etc -- let's just say that after a period of exceptionally hard work I want a treat -- and this would cost me about half what a used MP would.) Views anyone -- they would be much appreciated.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Hi alun, Take a look here To titanium...or not..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
toyfel Posted August 5, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 5, 2009 If you want it mainly because of the look it may be worth contemplating what lens you´ll be using it with and how appealing that combination looks to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 5, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 5, 2009 Well if you want it, get it. That said, do you need a 3rd body? Would a new lens (focal length you don't have) open up more opportunities for you? Or if you're happy with what you have, how about spending the money on some travelling to take more photos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted August 5, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 5, 2009 Why would you need a titanium camera?. I have 2 bog standard M6's with a 0.72 finder. They are fine. Might be better spending the money on tuition as we all can learn something and that would develop your skills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted August 5, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 5, 2009 Titanium is the only "special finishing" I like : it has nothing to do, imho, with all those stupid "special editions" that abounded some years ago... and after all Titanium was a standard listed model. I confess that me too thought someteimes of it, so I understand at all your mood... but I am a lens lover... at least ONE titanium lens (for me) should be mandatory (personally, I'd like a lot the 90... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 5, 2009 Share #6 Posted August 5, 2009 Go for it and you will not regret it ... I filled in the white numerals on mine because I couldn't read them in bright light. The camera is over 10 years old and the finish has proved to be very durable and scratch free. The leather is better for grip than vulcanite and warmer to touch. I have to make sure the shutter speed is left on 'B' when camera is not in use otherwise the battery drains but TTBOMK all M6 cameras have this problem. Unfortunately I don't have a titanium lens to match the camera. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted August 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the helpful replies so far. Oddly (and atypically) I *do* like the look of the titanium M6, including the covering.... Is that sufficient reason to buy a third body? Of course not. Do I need a third body? Equally, of course not. Another lens? No, I have the lenses I wish to learn and become proficient with. Travel elsewhere to take pictures? Oddly, to me that sounds like a chore. I think dunks' M6 with a black lens looks lovely and is the most compelling argument thus far. Will I do it? Probably not. If I'm asking the question here it probably means my heart isn't truly in it: I hate camera guilt and suspect that this is what would follow.... But it is very pleasant to dream, to speculate, to plan...and even (sometimes and if the mood takes one) to abort those plans and pursue another...or nothing at all... This is one of those itches that I don't often have -- it's an itch about a *thing*, an object, an artefact. It isn't rational or necessary or sensible (apart from the fact that I have chosen an affordable thing as opposed to a thing I can't afford....) Thanks again for taking time to respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted August 5, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 5, 2009 I will land with the "if you want it, and can afford it, then go for it" voices. If you can do it, I'd put a titanium summilux 35/1,4 pre-asph on that m6 as a permanent body cap. A costly but killer combination! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted August 5, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 5, 2009 The other point I meant to raise is that it looks as though the camera is covered with ostrich skin. I once had a watch strap made of ostrich and the raised areas of the skin knock off very easily with use and the strap looked very shabby once that had happened. The strap by the way was Leica quality and the deterioration was quite quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted August 5, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 5, 2009 I thought that only the finish was Titanium and the rest standard M. I understand that there were a few MP's and M7's actually crafted out of Titanium which would be worth having except for the astronomical prices wanted.-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted August 5, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 5, 2009 I like the titanium equipment and would go for the M6 with a titanium 50 lux. You can't take your money with you so might as well enjoy it while your here. After seeing the pictures posted here I'm tempted. What a great looking camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 5, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 5, 2009 The other point I meant to raise is that it looks as though the camera is covered with ostrich skin. I once had a watch strap made of ostrich and the raised areas of the skin knock off very easily with use and the strap looked very shabby once that had happened. The strap by the way was Leica quality and the deterioration was quite quick The M6 Titanium is covered with ostrich skin but the pimples are intact after over 10 years. Lots of watch straps deteriorate quickly in fact more quickly than shoes - maybe because they are stretched every time the strap is fastened and they soak up a lot of perspiration from the wrist - plus they are rubbed on desk tops - and get wet when users wash their hands. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted August 6, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 6, 2009 I will land with the "if you want it, and can afford it, then go for it" voices. If you can do it, I'd put a titanium summilux 35/1,4 pre-asph on that m6 as a permanent body cap. A costly but killer combination! The other day (maybe two or three month ago) such a set (M6 titanium + 35/1.4 pre-ASPH titanium) was offered fro $3500 USD on the well known auction site. Seller with 100% positive feedback, all boxes, papers etc. but no bid. Seller re-listed for $3200 and then it was sold within 48 hours .. If I only would have had the money ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted August 6, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 6, 2009 Yur always liked his... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks to all who replied. I have decided that nice as it is the acquisition of a third M body (a Ti M6) would eventually reveal itself to be an indulgence that I would suffer puritanical anti-consumerist regrets about... So it will remain a fond dream (that I return to on those days when I need contemplation and consolation). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted August 8, 2009 Share #16 Posted August 8, 2009 Alun, you may want to reconsider and get it after all... Have a look at the titanium M6 and M7 information on my web pages under "highlights" :-) Pascal Pascal's Leica Pages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted August 10, 2009 Thanks, Pascal.... You are a demon sitting on my shoulder! In fact, I had already found your pages because if I am not mistaken the recent EVERDAY DESIGN CLASSICS article on the (UK) Guardian's website by Jonathan Glancey used the picture from your website of the M6Ti and it was partly that that set me thinking!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted August 10, 2009 Ever wondered what happens to decently/under-priced Leicas when they sell? Well, here's one possible answer. Up until late last week Classic Camera had an M6 Ti at what I though was the undr-valued price of £899.00. Then it disappeared from the website. Now, Red Dot has one listed -- "picture to follow" -- at £1,199.00. I could be mistaken, but I wouldn't mind betting it's the one from Classic Camera. Moral of this story: if you *do* want something, buy it before another dealer does! Ah well, that solves my dilemma... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted August 10, 2009 Share #19 Posted August 10, 2009 Ever wondered what happens to decently/under-priced Leicas when they sell? Well, here's one possible answer. Up until late last week Classic Camera had an M6 Ti at what I though was the undr-valued price of £899.00. Then it disappeared from the website. Now, Red Dot has one listed -- "picture to follow" -- at £1,199.00. I could be mistaken, but I wouldn't mind betting it's the one from Classic Camera. Moral of this story: if you *do* want something, buy it before another dealer does! Ah well, that solves my dilemma... Alun, I think cameras get moved around between dealers quit a lot. In fact the camera may still be at Classic Camera but available on both websites at differing prices. But I am pleased that this process, in any case has helped you in your decision making. For me it is the in decision that I hate. Once a situation resolves itself them the mist clears and one is able to focus on what is really important Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicajh Posted August 11, 2009 Share #20 Posted August 11, 2009 I have a M8 Ti along with titanium 35, 50 1.4, 50 2.0, and a 90 2.0. It sits mainly in a safe at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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