andybarton Posted August 5, 2009 Share #41 Posted August 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not had a problem on my D700, but only using Elmarits so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Hi andybarton, Take a look here R10 coming or not?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
miami91 Posted August 5, 2009 Share #42 Posted August 5, 2009 If there are indeed Leica announcements forthcoming on 09/09/2009, I wonder if the so-called "digital solution" for R lenses will be one of them? I'd sure like to know what they have planned. I really don't want to buy a Canon, and although I'd be open to a Nikon or Sony dSLR, semi-permanently changing the mounts (the Leitax conversion mounts for example) are not an attractive option for me, as I will continue to predominantly shoot film. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted August 5, 2009 Share #43 Posted August 5, 2009 If there are indeed Leica announcements forthcoming on 09/09/2009, I wonder if the so-called "digital solution" for R lenses will be one of them? I'd sure like to know what they have planned. I really don't want to buy a Canon, and although I'd be open to a Nikon or Sony dSLR, semi-permanently changing the mounts (the Leitax conversion mounts for example) are not an attractive option for me, as I will continue to predominantly shoot film. There's a bigger choice of Nikon 35mm cameras than there ever was of Leicaflexes and Rs:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted August 5, 2009 Share #44 Posted August 5, 2009 There's a bigger choice of Nikon 35mm cameras than there ever was of Leicaflexes and Rs:D I hear you, but I own two R9s that I really love, and don't want them orphaned. Thus the desire to have a digital solution that would allow easy switch/swap with film (a la using an M7 and M8). Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 5, 2009 Share #45 Posted August 5, 2009 The R "solution" will not be announced on 9/9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted August 5, 2009 Share #46 Posted August 5, 2009 The R "solution" will not be announced on 9/9 Do you know anything more than this that you'd be willing/able to share Andy? Such as 1) What will be announced on 09/09?, or 2) What the timeline for the R solution announcement is? Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 5, 2009 Share #47 Posted August 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Only what I read here, especially what was reported from the Hessenpark meeting in June The announcement on 9/9 is most likely to be the M9 but the solution for R users was said to be years away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted August 5, 2009 Share #48 Posted August 5, 2009 Only what I read here, especially what was reported from the Hessenpark meeting in June The announcement on 9/9 is most likely to be the M9 but the solution for R users was said to be years away While I hope all of the M9 speculation is well-founded, I'll be extremely disappointed if the R solution is years away. That would not meet my notion of "near future", nor any other reasonable person's I wouldn't think. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvalarcher Posted August 6, 2009 Share #49 Posted August 6, 2009 +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayoflight Posted August 6, 2009 Share #50 Posted August 6, 2009 inevitably fast glass reports very different e/v for the camera, and metering is out.As you stop down the metering becomes more accurate. You can buy adapters intended for adapting the lens to a body like 5D, and providing focus confirmation. The best of them, containing programmable ROM, and approaching US$100 per, will adjust e/v as well. Thank you, Riley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrethorst Posted August 7, 2009 Share #51 Posted August 7, 2009 Since when has Leica had any German-made products that were "viable" competitors? The DSLR market is much larger than the rangefinder market, but I'm guessing that the M8 gets much of the sales it gets because it's a digital German-made Leica, not because the customers really prefer a rangefinder design.I guess you are guessing wrong. So a practical photographer who needs high quality knows he or she can get up and running at a professional level with Canon or Nikon: big sensor, lots of lenses including zooms, all the rest, for $3000 or less, but instead just has to have a rangefinder, so starts with a body for $6000 plus at least as much for lenses Don't forget giving up autofocus or program exposure. Nothing to do with the red dot or place of manufacture? Just that it has to be a rangefinder? Whatever you choose to believe, my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 7, 2009 Share #52 Posted August 7, 2009 jret: Yep - that's me. If I never look at a groundglass for the rest of my life, or feel a mirror flopping around when I shoot, or miss seeing the moment I'm actually capturing due to finder blackout - that's worth whatever it costs. I'm competent to focus and expose for myself - I'm not "giving up autofocus or program exposure" - I'm paying to avoid them. It's sad that I have to - but such is the world Nikon and Canon have left me. Same for zooms - I've been a picture editor and designer for 20 years - looked at lots of pix with zooms, by multiple photographers. Not interested (not to mention that my entire line of 6 Leica-mount RF lenses from 15 to 135 - put together - weigh less than anyone's 80-200 f/2.8) I'm not sure what pro Nikon or Canon you're thinking of where you can get the camera and "lots of lenses" for $3,000 or less. Those would be the pro versions of the D3000 or RebelT1i? 'Cause a D700 or 5Dii will eat your whole $3000 without any lens at all. Just for the record - the average price per lens that I've paid for M-mount lenses (5 Leica, 1 Cosina) is $624. All since 2001. And the nice thing is that none of them have shards of plastic hanging off after 8 years use (plus the 20 or 40 years use most of them had before I got them). Leave the snarky signoffs to Limbaugh, and check the facts first. (Oh - and find the words 'Germany' or 'Red Dot' anywhere in the explanation above.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted August 7, 2009 Share #53 Posted August 7, 2009 I'm competent to focus and expose for myself - I'm not "giving up autofocus or program exposure" - I'm paying to avoid them. It's sad that I have to - but such is the world Nikon and Canon have left me. Same for zooms - I've been a picture editor and designer for 20 years - looked at lots of pix with zooms, by multiple photographers. Not interested Other than my need for longer lenses and the consequent flippin' mirror, I'm with Andy here. I know how to focus a lens, set exposure and keep a camera steady. It's not rocket science. If I have to pay more for a camera that doesn't get in my way, so be it. Same for zooms: I'll take the brilliance of a couple of APO primes over the convenience of a zoom. Personal choice. If mainstream cameras weren't so auto-centric it might have been a couple of ED primes instead of the APOs. It's nothing about dot colors or the maker's spoken language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted August 7, 2009 Share #54 Posted August 7, 2009 I must say I agree with Doug and Andy too. I want a manual system that allows me to use high quality glass to get the pictures I want, and not the ones the autofocus algorithm wants. Primes are fine with me. Mentally it's much simpler too, and so you concentrate on the image. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted August 7, 2009 Share #55 Posted August 7, 2009 Jeff, I was there. Stefan said that the suitable solution would not be (announced) before next Photokina (2010) "too ambitious". Whatever the truth is on the rumoured September announcements, Stefan specifically said that about the suitable solution for R lens to be used digitally. On future plans: My opinion is that Stefan tried to be explicit and definite on the cancellation of the R10. No R10 means no new AF R lenses too. Of course he would not and should not disclose business secrets. Many posters here seem to be analysing and interpreting his words. You have to think that some of that may be emotional more than logical. Personally my GUESS based on rumours here and elsewhere is that the M9 announcement will be sooner than I expected and by the end of this year. Naturally any announcement is not the same as production or availability. No-one who visited Solms in June saw any indication of increased activity or facilities to assemble any M9 camera. I don't think it is going on in the staff tearoom. I even got invited into the inner offices upstairs where my camera upgrades were organised (for next business day!) No secret M9 activity up there either. Leica staff also recently said that the Portugal factory (where the basic body assemblies come from) was not operating full time during the current summer. None of that suggests to me a brand new anything about to burst onto the market ready for sale. If there are indeed Leica announcements forthcoming on 09/09/2009, I wonder if the so-called "digital solution" for R lenses will be one of them? I'd sure like to know what they have planned. I really don't want to buy a Canon, and although I'd be open to a Nikon or Sony dSLR, semi-permanently changing the mounts (the Leitax conversion mounts for example) are not an attractive option for me, as I will continue to predominantly shoot film. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 7, 2009 Share #56 Posted August 7, 2009 this is a link to a sophisticated R to EOS adapter yes its ebay, but theres lots of info there including videos anD manuals etc AF-Confirm BLACK LeicaR-EOS Adapter AF-Trigger OPTIX V5 - eBay (item 270438130172 end time Sep-03-09 07:30:38 PDT) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted August 7, 2009 Share #57 Posted August 7, 2009 Jeff, I was there. Stefan said that the suitable solution would not be (announced) before next Photokina (2010) "too ambitious". Thanks for the clarification. It's disappointing to wait that long to know what the full set of available options are, but taking a glass half full view, "too ambitious" certainly sounds like perhaps they have something far more compelling up their sleeves than a rebadged Panasonic mFT. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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