thebarnman Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share #21 Â Posted February 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) From what you have written I would suggest that the 28mm would fit your needs and as a relatively recent R design its performance will be superb. Â That's what I keep going back and forth on. I feel the 28mm is the "better" performer, however from most samples I've seen of it's reproduction, it seems to be a little bit too wide for what I'm looking to do. Â Then again, I fully won't know that till I give them a try. Â As masjah was saying, "don't rule out from consideration the 21-35 zoom; optically it is excellent." Odd I know since I've been taught primes perform better than zooms. Then again, I think this zoom was of much newer design than those primes? Â In any case, I'm still thinking about it. Even though this is way out of topic, Currently, I'm very happy with my R-90mm f/2 APO Summicron ASPH for the purposes of longer focal length. I'm pretty sure it's still "one" of the top performers in the R range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi thebarnman, Take a look here 19 VS 28 VS 35 R lens. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gpwhite Posted February 24, 2014 Share #22 Â Posted February 24, 2014 I am throwing my comments into the thread because of the query, from the original questions, related to the Elmar M 24mm. I am an M shooter, but use the 19mm Elmarit R version II on both the M240 and (mostly) Sony A7R. Â The Elmar M 24mm has the most bite of any wide-angle I have shot, and I have tried too many to count. Sharpness, color, micro contrast and rendering of 3D are greater with the Elmar 24mm @f/3.8 , in my opinion, than any Leica lens other than 50 APO ASPH. The next best wide-angle performer, in my experience, is the SEM 18mm. Â Taking the above as a context for my comments, the Elmarit R 19mm is exceptional @ f/2.8 and maybe even a bit crisper still at f/4. Closest focus with the 19mm is just outstanding, and colors even remain saturated, yet nuanced and natural. But the 19mm is a very different animal than the longer FOV lenses mentioned in the original post... indeed, the rendering and glow in images from the 19mm are quite different than the bite from the SEM 18mm. The 19mm is more artsy and smooth in its rendering, and the visual impact of thinner DOF @ f/2.8 is a unique compositional element. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted March 1, 2014 Share #23  Posted March 1, 2014 hello, how does the 19mm Elmarit R version II perform on the M240? Ist it still as sharp as new M lenses? What ist the benefit off that lens compared to am M 19mm?  best regards Alexander   I am throwing my comments into the thread because of the query, from the original questions, related to the Elmar M 24mm. I am an M shooter, but use the 19mm Elmarit R version II on both the M240 and (mostly) Sony A7R. The Elmar M 24mm has the most bite of any wide-angle I have shot, and I have tried too many to count. Sharpness, color, micro contrast and rendering of 3D are greater with the Elmar 24mm @f/3.8 , in my opinion, than any Leica lens other than 50 APO ASPH. The next best wide-angle performer, in my experience, is the SEM 18mm.  Taking the above as a context for my comments, the Elmarit R 19mm is exceptional @ f/2.8 and maybe even a bit crisper still at f/4. Closest focus with the 19mm is just outstanding, and colors even remain saturated, yet nuanced and natural. But the 19mm is a very different animal than the longer FOV lenses mentioned in the original post... indeed, the rendering and glow in images from the 19mm are quite different than the bite from the SEM 18mm. The 19mm is more artsy and smooth in its rendering, and the visual impact of thinner DOF @ f/2.8 is a unique compositional element. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2014 Share #24 Â Posted March 1, 2014 The R-19 is faster but the M-18 is sharper. I have no experience with either though. Elmarit-R_1928-2_tech.pdf Elmar-M_1838_tech.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skueh Posted March 2, 2014 Share #25 Â Posted March 2, 2014 The Elmar M 24mm has the most bite of any wide-angle I have shot, and I have tried too many to count. Sharpness, color, micro contrast and rendering of 3D are greater with the Elmar 24mm @f/3.8 , in my opinion, than any Leica lens other than 50 APO ASPH. The next best wide-angle performer, in my experience, is the SEM 18mm. . Â gpwhite, I assume the Elmar M 24mm you referenced to is the Elmar-M 24mm f3.8 Asph (code: 11604). Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted March 2, 2014 Share #26  Posted March 2, 2014 hello, how does the 19mm Elmarit R version II perform on the M240? Ist it still as sharp as new M lenses? What ist the benefit off that lens compared to am M 19mm?  best regards Alexander  The Elmarit-R 19mm f/2.8 version II performs beautifully on the M240. The center area of the image is very sharp, yes, but the rendering of the 19mm is more delicate (not as biting) than the SEM 18mm. The 19mm is best, in my opinion, @f/2.8, so it offers a look that is not possible with the 18mm. The biggest difference, and why I have the 19mm, is that it focuses down to 0,3m, and its performance at that distance remains really outstanding in every respect.  The SEM 18mm, just be clear, renders brilliance and micro-contrast right into the corners. The 19mm has gentle corners... not bad, but just not comparable to the M Elmar lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted March 2, 2014 Share #27 Â Posted March 2, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The R-19 is faster but the M-18 is sharper. I have no experience with either though. Â True that an extremely sharp knife is sharper than an extraordinarily sharp knife (19mm vs. 18mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted March 2, 2014 Share #28 Â Posted March 2, 2014 gpwhite, I assume the Elmar M 24mm you referenced to is the Elmar-M 24mm f3.8 Asph (code: 11604). Thanks. Â Yes, right. Sorry... is there another Elmar 24mm? I have always been confused why some Elmar WA f/3.8 are "Super" and some are just plain "Elmar." Must be the price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisling Posted May 7, 2014 Share #29  Posted May 7, 2014 For 5 years on my oversea travels, I take only one wide angle lens- the Elmarit R19  its can cover wide architecture without cutting off the edges. 21mm/24mm lens cannot catch these shots Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/90652-19-vs-28-vs-35-r-lens/?do=findComment&comment=2584869'>More sharing options...
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