wide.angle Posted October 26, 2006 Share #1 Posted October 26, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) What do people think of the winning portfolio? http://www.leica-camera.us/culture/leica_publishers_award/winner_2006/ How do you think the judges analyzed this in issuing it an award? I have no background in critical art/journalism theory (assuming such a study exists), but would certainly love to hear from those that have some insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 Hi wide.angle, Take a look here Leica Publisher's Award, Winner 2006. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
abrewer Posted October 27, 2006 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2006 LOL! After seeing these, I'm feeling much better about myself thank you! It's all about the light. Thanks for sharing. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmsr Posted October 27, 2006 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2006 uhmmmm. I like the one of the two people under the orange umbrellas and the other people in motion blur. Other than that, I was taught as a child "if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it". I'm honestly surprised and not pleasantly. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted October 27, 2006 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2006 Ray, That was about what I thought as well. Most of these looks like poor holiday snaps and are completely uninterresting. There must be something else that made the jury choose him. - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted October 27, 2006 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2006 It certainly helps NOT to buy cameras >>Made in the P. R. O. C.<< Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2006 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2006 The topic, the new China is being flogged to death by many, the Chinese photographers seem to have a more interesting perspective on the subject. On my last visit recently in Shanghai I had a view from my hotel.... in a week the view was another two floors of a building next to the hotel . These images are a weak indicator of what is transpiring and has for a while in China. The judges must have Rip van Winkled the last decade if they see this as a pertinent folio of images, sadly............... A piss poor effort all round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hammertone Posted October 27, 2006 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Opposite to popular opinion here, I like this portfolio a lot. In my opinion, it very well captures the pace at which everything old is currently replaced with something new in the big Eastern Chinese cities. Mabe it helps if you have seen these dramatic changes in person to value this portfolio. I could imagine myself buying this book ... Joachim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2006 Share #8 Posted October 27, 2006 Been in and out of the place for the last two decades, no it doesn't reflect the changes, especially the displacement of citizens and the destruction of the rural population who are forced economically to create these facades. No view of the extreme pollution of North East China, populations forced out of Beijing in the most cruel fashion (a run down building says very little in that regard) Pretty colours are not what the changes are about Joachim just think about the human rights issues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hammertone Posted October 27, 2006 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2006 Dear "stnami" Nowhere I mentioned that these changes do not come with a huge price! I was talking about ... change ... old ... new. This is well captured in these images. There is certainly a need for discussion about human rights, I absolutely agree. But not every photographer who takes pictures in China has to contribute to this discussion. Apart from that I have a bit of a problem with someone talking about human rights but disqualifiying the work of a fellow photographer as "a piss poor effort" at the same time. Joachim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2006 Share #10 Posted October 27, 2006 It is the facade that the photographer has created what is a p.p effort depicting the situation both visually and from a human perspective, But then all this doesn't matter when rose coloured glasses come to play. But not every photographer who takes pictures in China has to contribute to this discussion. ... you sure lost me there, who said that other than you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hammertone Posted October 27, 2006 Share #11 Posted October 27, 2006 ... you sure lost me there Yes, it seems we are arguing on different levels. So we better stop here. J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2006 Share #12 Posted October 27, 2006 it seems we are arguing on different levels Yes we shall leave it as that considering that China is my wife's ancestral home... those human rights issue are pertinant to any portayal of the place especially the old/new of now and the old/new issues of the 60's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted October 27, 2006 Share #13 Posted October 27, 2006 Hi Stnami. Somebody as engaged as you are, it makes me wonder, should I see you as an expert on the issue or as a person too biased. Only a question, not an opinion. Besides, the pictures aren't that bad, very few tourists do so well. Regards, Fr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 27, 2006 Share #14 Posted October 27, 2006 I like these ones. Nice light IMO. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/7950-leica-publishers-award-winner-2006/?do=findComment&comment=78886'>More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted October 27, 2006 not every photographer who takes pictures in China has to contribute to this discussion. I did not intend to exclude anyone from contributing to this discussion. I am interested in all considered and thougtful perspectives. I have not been to China nor made images of there, but started the topic. Does one need to visit China to understand why the portfolio won? Did it win for content despite form, or other aspects? If form contributed to its value, then what aspects? For those that have been to China and can offer a perspective on that account of the value (or lack thereof) in this Winning portfolio, all the better. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hammertone Posted October 27, 2006 Share #16 Posted October 27, 2006 I did not intend to exclude anyone from contributing to this discussion. You got me wrong. Please read again. I was talking about discussing human rights ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 27, 2006 Share #17 Posted October 27, 2006 As a potfolio I though these were really good. I'm sure they would work well as a group in a gallery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share #18 Posted October 27, 2006 Joachim, thanks for the clarification. Steve, thanks for your perspective. What makes these really good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 27, 2006 Share #19 Posted October 27, 2006 Scott, I'm not a very intelectual photographer or viewer. I tend to rely on instinct - I'd never have made a lecturer :-). But, some of them have great light. Whether it's the night or haze, there's a soft look to some of them I like. Also I think the photographer has a good eye - the two people in the telephone (?) and the guy sat down with what I assume is an Olympics poster behind him. An initial glance at this second one is disorientating, the geometry is all wrong, then the realisation that it's a poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted October 27, 2006 Share #20 Posted October 27, 2006 Reminds of me of an old joke: How many photographers does it take to make a picture. 10 1 to take the picture and 9 to stand back and say "I coulda done better than that" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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