rosuna Posted February 22, 2009 Share #21 Posted February 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would like to see the first Leica Micro Four Thirds camera (a rebranded Panasonic body) and lenses. I don't like the G1 shape and form though. This M4/3 will be a perfect Digilux 4 camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steich Posted February 22, 2009 Share #22 Posted February 22, 2009 Wonder how many upgraded from Digilux 2 to a Leica M camera..? Sort of... I had 2 M6, then the Digilux 2, sold one of the M6 and got the M8. Does that count for an upgrade? Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCHA Posted February 22, 2009 Share #23 Posted February 22, 2009 Would also agree with the previous posts. 10 or 12 Mpx sensor. A body like the D2 with grip like its Panasonic sister. HiDef color and B&W EFV. A swing out 3" LCD, ala G1. Interchangeable lens mount M43, standard. Lenses with at least an f/2.0 max aperture. 10 to 25mm, 25 to 70mm, and a 70 to 140mm Zoom lenses. And a collection of primes with 1.4 apertures. Some well made "other Camera Mount" lens adapters. A mechanical cable release capability as well as an electronic one. A body price around $1200, Lenses, $600 for standard kit lens. Etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted February 22, 2009 Share #24 Posted February 22, 2009 Would also agree with the previous posts. 10 or 12 Mpx sensor. A body like the D2 with grip like its Panasonic sister. HiDef color and B&W EFV. A swing out 3" LCD, ala G1. Interchangeable lens mount M43, standard. Lenses with at least an f/2.0 max aperture. 10 to 25mm, 25 to 70mm, and a 70 to 140mm Zoom lenses.And a collection of primes with 1.4 apertures. Some well made "other Camera Mount" lens adapters. A mechanical cable release capability as well as an electronic one. A body price around $1200, Lenses, $600 for standard kit lens. Etc. Why would we want that? That is simply just "another" camera. You should simply buy the Panasonic version of the Digilux 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCHA Posted February 22, 2009 Share #25 Posted February 22, 2009 Quote: Why would we want that? That is simply just "another" camera. You should simply buy the Panasonic version of the Digilux 3. I guess, because it is a Leica??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted February 22, 2009 Share #26 Posted February 22, 2009 Quote: Why would we want that? That is simply just "another" camera. You should simply buy the Panasonic version of the Digilux 3. I guess, because it is a Leica??? Not for $1200. it won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 22, 2009 Share #27 Posted February 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think the point is that the Diglux 2 is very close to perfect and doesn't need other lenses or anything. Just more and faster of what is, nothing added. Digilux 3 I don't know from personal use but does know it's a different camera. I'm sure I would have fun with it, but it's yet another camera and lens system on top of M and R for me. But within the core competences Leica has I'm sure they could develop more great cameras. If they want to make cameras that sell and are used as is or if all their new cameras should educate users to want M or R or S, I don't know. But comparing the Digilux 2 (which is very much a Leica camera) to D-Lux 4 (which is very much a Panasonic camera) it's clear to see what Leica can. In short it could be stated as Simplicity, because what they aim for is the picture, not the camera. I've also earlier talked about a Digilux 2.2 but with either interchangable lenses, or simply a 28-90mm edition and a 135-300 editon; because if reportage/press photographers' needs is to be filled, they need tele cameras for sport and similar (which at the same time is very fast AF and shoots in very fast series). But a 28-90mm Digilux 2.2 would fulfill 90% of what most press photographers do all day long, and would so so in a less threatening and disturbing way (because a Mark III really isn't great shooting ordinary people with). If a "tele edition" of Digilux 2.2 should be relevant, it should be able to do what a Mark III or Nikon D3 does in terms of speed. And perhaps ISO should be taken into account. You see a lot of new photography being done which is only possible because of the high ISO of Nikon D3. So one would want that to, in that segment of users. Leica once were the king of the press photographers, but then speed became essential. Speed of AF, speed of rewinding, speed of film change, etc and since then press corps has changed between Canon and Nikon to whoever made the fastest cameras. They would never go back to M. But an M-style camera that can do things fast ... not impossible (which is the Digilux 2.2, and many of them anyways take the Digilux 2 for an M camera when they see it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCHA Posted February 22, 2009 Share #28 Posted February 22, 2009 Not for $1200. it won't be. Just Dreaming, I suppose!!! I do like the Digilux 2.2 concept, however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steich Posted February 23, 2009 Share #29 Posted February 23, 2009 Just Dreaming, I suppose!!!I do like the Digilux 2.2 concept, however Me, too! I sold my DL2 to buy the M8, but I am still sort of missing it. What I would like to spend my money on: - Digilux 2 lens (maybe modified to 24-90?) - sensor capable of good 1600 ISO (and "emergency" 3200 or higher) - improved (faster) EVF - improved (faster) AF - intregrated handgrip (like the Pana that was relabeled to DL2) - M8 battery, enabling to make the camera a little less bulky (and making the M8 compact charger even more useful) Regards, Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted February 24, 2009 Share #30 Posted February 24, 2009 Less bulk, simpler manual controls -- but I think I might prefer a D-Lux 4 with that design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted March 10, 2009 Share #31 Posted March 10, 2009 I don't understand the sensor size change request, the Digilux 3 was and is a 4:3 system camera. if there were to be a fresh version of this camera.. it would probably be another 4:3 camera. possible a u43 Personally Im very happy with my Digilux-3 it have been used for a enormous amount of pictures, and I have been very pleased with its performance, within the limits of this camera. using the FL32 from olympus for flash which works perfectly with the camera. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted March 10, 2009 Share #32 Posted March 10, 2009 FYI, a larger sensor will also require that the new, improved D2 use a different lens, because the image circle will need to be proportionally larger to cover a larger sensor. Well, so why not a new lens? I believe Leica would be capable of making a 2.0/28-90 lens not too bulky, with the perfect analogue feeling as the present lens, AND suitable, e.g., for a µ4/3 system, or even an APS sensor. More than 8 or 10 MP would not be necessary, a higher speed is more important. And please keep the simple mode of operation, the nice design, the marvellous JPEG engine, and improve the EVF, add a RAW buffer, and make the AF faster (although I almost never use the AF - but who knows, maybe I would use it more frequently it it were faster). I am so happy that I have got a Digilux 2, and I will be even happier if a Digilux 2.2 will be available, with some improvements as described, but WITHOUT leaving the present concept of handling and design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted March 10, 2009 Share #33 Posted March 10, 2009 A Digilux 4, in the spirit of the Digilux 3 - Not the Digilux 2 - i own both and the 2 is a great P&S while the 3 could be a system camera 1. In camera image stabilization 2. a new 50-200 2.8 - 3.5 lens to go with it 3. 5 FPS 4. cleaner at higher iso 5. iso push to 3200 Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cow_penalty Posted March 10, 2009 Share #34 Posted March 10, 2009 Great thread - lots of good suggestions. I think the over whelming message is that Leica got is close to perfect the first time around, only a few tweaks would make it a certifiable classic. My simple requests, as a new (refurbished) Digilux 2 owner: Faster RAW processing / larger RAW buffer. EVF upgrade - something like the new Panasonic G1. Even the old Minolta A2 supposedly had a pretty nice EVF with the high gain B&W mode for low light situations. A sensor upgrade (not size), with respect to sensitivity and dynamic range. If possible, make the lens physically smaller. While it is a piece of beauty, something a little less assuming would be welcomed, but is probably only achievable with primes. I actually think a two-tier line of cameras would be great, all with the EVF. The base model would keep the attached lens (a la D2), and the top shelf model would be a body with a selection of fast primes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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