jplomley Posted January 30, 2009 Share #1 Posted January 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, I sold my M6 last year to help fund an M8. And although I love the M8, I was truly missing the film M experience. My dealer had a beautiful demo black M7 in stock at a price I just could not refuse. Resistance was futile, and it took all of 10 min to have my wallet out and the camera registered. I know 35mm film cannot compete with the M8 and is out distanced by my Mamiya 7, but there is some intangible associated with shooting a film M. It goes beyond the end point. I believe it's the film M experience I missed the most....the silent shutter, the buttery smooth film advance, following the 35mm film tradition of the masters and all the nostalgia therein. I know I'm crazy spending this kind of money on a 35mm film body when a 5DMII costs not much more, but there will always be another 5DMX around the corner. I felt I needed the film M experience again while I could still get it. Thanks for listening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kent10D Posted January 30, 2009 Share #2 Posted January 30, 2009 That's not caving! That's "seeing the light!" Welcome back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted January 30, 2009 Share #3 Posted January 30, 2009 Welcome back to the fold Brother Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 30, 2009 Share #4 Posted January 30, 2009 I know 35mm film cannot compete with the M8 . That's a matter of opinion, of course There's a thread in the Photo section waiting for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted January 30, 2009 Share #5 Posted January 30, 2009 Jeff trust me you are not alone.... I even bought a used Nokia 6310 (the best IMO)the other day on the bay for smalL money ,because I am tired of having a phone that isn't a phone:) andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted January 30, 2009 Share #6 Posted January 30, 2009 Jeff, It's nonsense ! If you find a cure, let me know. Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted January 30, 2009 Share #7 Posted January 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wont be long before the last thought running through your head at night is "... M3 above or below 1,000,000 ...?". Dont worry though, that will be after you already have an MP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted January 30, 2009 Share #8 Posted January 30, 2009 This thread isn't helping me. I'm trying hard to resist buying a new black MP at a really attractive price. I'm hoping if I procrastinate long enough someone else will buy it and take the decision out of my hands, but .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted January 30, 2009 Buy it. Life's short. Far too short. Get that MP and enjoy the ride. Just ask Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 30, 2009 Share #10 Posted January 30, 2009 Interesting and congratulations. Increasingly, I'm thinking that Leica have failed to recreate the M magic with the M8. Its problems and issues of all sorts really take the gilt off the gingerbread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 30, 2009 Share #11 Posted January 30, 2009 Increasingly, I'm thinking that Leica have failed to recreate the M magic with the M8 I'm not so sure Mark. After four of five years of using digital SLRs it was a genuine pleasure to start using an M8 again two years ago. It's not the same as using a film M - heck, an M2 was different from an M6 - but the soul of the M is still there IMHO. Maybe I'm different from everyone else, I have no idea. But all the people I've met in person who use the M8 have enjoyed the experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted January 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted January 31, 2009 JeffI even bought a used Nokia 6310 (the best IMO)the other day on the bay for smalL money ,because I am tired of having a phone that isn't a phone:) andy 6310 (i) surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted January 31, 2009 Share #13 Posted January 31, 2009 6310 (i) surely It's the best phone ever made, the Leica MP of mobiles. I paid big (for a phone) money for an unused one on the bay to complement my car's hands free kit. Had one for 10 years. let's have a Poll, or a Petition. If this post should be in the M8 sub-section, please feel free to move it. Rolo :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted January 31, 2009 Share #14 Posted January 31, 2009 I'd be a much richer man if I'd learned earlier in life one simple lesson, "Never sell gear to buy gear." More often than not, you wind up wishing you still had the items you sold, and wind up paying 2-3x what you received for them in sale to re-acquire them later. It's worse than a pawn shop! Welcome back to the M film shooters. My film M's make me a better M8 shooter. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest darkstar2004 Posted February 2, 2009 Share #15 Posted February 2, 2009 Buy it. Life's short. Far too short. Get that MP and enjoy the ride. Just ask Rolo I'll second that! I have, um, "several" cameras and my MP 0.72 ( black paint, of course) is my "If I could only have one camera and the lenses for it" camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffwros Posted February 2, 2009 Share #16 Posted February 2, 2009 "Never sell gear to buy gear." Thank you for this. Excellent advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotteci Posted February 3, 2009 Share #17 Posted February 3, 2009 I have to admit that I am smitten with film at the moment as well. I bought my first ever film camera (M6) a month or so ago, and love it. So much so, that I can't stop buying cheap film cameras! There just are so many "extinct" film cameras in perfect shape out there selling for practically nothing. First a Russian Zorki for $40 from ebay (why not?). Then a CV Bessa R3a (figured I could use a backup to the M6, maybe with different film). Then a Canon 7 (not sure why exactly....but it is pretty cool and in great shape). Then a Nikon MP (because I like Nikon and I wanted a non-rangefinder camera). So, the moral (to me at least) is, get whatever makes you happy. Of course the irony is that for the money I am spending on all of these "cheap" cameras, I could have bought another M6....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. white Posted February 4, 2009 Share #18 Posted February 4, 2009 Hey Jeff, Enjoy having options! After hemming and hawing for a year and a half, I bought an M8 last Spring. With some good fortune, I didn't have to sell any gear, especially my M6 ttl, to do so. After shooting with both cameras for the better part of a year, I put together a "best of 2008" collection. What was interesting in looking at the collection is that I shot fewer than 60 rolls (roughly 2100 exposures) of Tri-X, and 2600 exposures on the M8 during the entire year, and yet my Tri-X images account for more than 80% of my favorite images. I accept that my heart belongs to film. AND, there's a place for digital capture in my life. Both really have their places with me and I hope you'll find that's the case for you. -J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted February 5, 2009 Share #19 Posted February 5, 2009 I too bought an M7 0.72 black before Christmas and sold my M6TTL Chrome 0.85 to help pay. I wanted to upgrade the M6TTL to have the new AE meter and the MP viewfinder and to also have the same 0.72 finder as my MP chrome. The M7 is now my B&W film camera using mainly TMAX 400 ( New super sharp one) . I used to use the M6TTL mainly when I needed flash as the TTL works well with the Leica flash SF24, so does the M7 in TTL mode and the MP is OK in Auto mode. I like the black as this is new to me having had chrome cameras before. My 35f2 asph is also in Chrome. I'd like a 35mm in black for the lighter weight but the prices of both used and new have gone crazy in the past 2 years with used being 30-40% more than 2 years ago. I've had some experience of "Never sell gear to buy gear" but in this case I think the upgrade in function has helped. I still use the MP for Velvia 50 & 100 when out on the hills shooting landscapes so I have an all manual film camera. I've also recently after much consideration bought the Canon G10 as my idea of a compact M type style digital camera. There have been some good reviews Nikon P6000 and Canon G10 Comparison Review of this camera even comparing it to a Hasselblad digital setup $40K for landscape shots printed to 13x19 inches that made it for me. In RAW shooting mode this 14.7 M pixel camera does seem to be quite flexible although I've yet to take it on a trip with the MP to compare. These smaller digital cameras do make me re-appreciate the qualities of the Leica M 35mm full frame lenses. f2.8 on a 6.1mm 1/1.7inch sensor is not the same as f2.8 on a 28mm (35mm format lens). This helps justify the higher price for the M lenses, well 2 years ago but not these days where a body and lens costs ~£5000. I suppose an M kit is 10-15x the price of these compacts and is perhaps 10x higher quality. For a family holiday I'll use the 40mm Minilux ( with Velvia) and the Canon G10 in RAW mode. With Leica lenses I think we can get the ~35M pixels from a 5400dpi scanner on high res film like Velvia, Kodachrome, and TMAX so the M7 should still be better than a 10M pixel M8 and your 35mm lens is 35mm not 47mm (equivalent). So sell your M8 and buy more lenses for the M7? But that breaks the "Don't sell kit to buy kit" rule which is worth thinking about. Best of luck for the future. Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waileong Posted February 7, 2009 Share #20 Posted February 7, 2009 Well, I sold my M6 last year to help fund an M8. And although I love the M8, I was truly missing the film M experience. My dealer had a beautiful demo black M7 in stock at a price I just could not refuse. Resistance was futile, and it took all of 10 min to have my wallet out and the camera registered. I know 35mm film cannot compete with the M8 and is out distanced by my Mamiya 7, but there is some intangible associated with shooting a film M. It goes beyond the end point. I believe it's the film M experience I missed the most....the silent shutter, the buttery smooth film advance, following the 35mm film tradition of the masters and all the nostalgia therein. I know I'm crazy spending this kind of money on a 35mm film body when a 5DMII costs not much more, but there will always be another 5DMX around the corner. I felt I needed the film M experience again while I could still get it. Thanks for listening. What gave you the idea that 35 mm film can't compete with the M8, 5DII or even the latest 25 MP DSLR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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