Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Share #1 Posted January 24, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello folks I'm a 16 years old boy from Copenhagen in Denmark. I've been photographing a lot the 3 and a half past years. I've begun mastering the manual techniques, and in my own apenion very well. For the past 6 monthes I've been shooting with a full manual Canon SLR from the '70s I borrowed from my grandmother and I've enjoyed it a lot! So my question goes, I have over the years, that I've been photographing bought some automatic Canon gear including a L-lens. Now I'm thinking very much of selling it and buying a Leica M6, I have tried it a couple of times and every time it just blows my mind it's everything everyone have ever said it should be. I'm hooked. So do you people in here think that it would be a good idea to sell all of my also very loved Canon gear, and buy a M6? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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antistatic Posted January 24, 2009 Share #2 Posted January 24, 2009 Wow, have you come to the wrong place if you want unbiased advice! Go and get the M6. You have told yourself you need it anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted January 24, 2009 I know it's proberbly not the best forum if I want an objektive advice, but i just kind of needed someone to tell me that it's the right chose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkmingle Posted January 24, 2009 Share #4 Posted January 24, 2009 Hi Simon - do it (and now something in Danish language): Hej Simon, hvis du har pengene til et M6 så prøv det da. Jeg har altid været vant til digital, men har faktisk købt et brugt M6 for 3 uger siden, netop fordi jeg ville prøve film. Det er super fedt at bruge og lille og kompakt, men er noget helt andet en spejlrefleks (men det ved du sikkert allerede). Spørg da om du må prøve et i Photografica i københavn og mærk efter om du kan mærke gnisten Hilsen Mikkel. P.S. Du kan få kameraet billigere end det de sælger det til i Photografica, men så skal du ud og lede lidt. Evt. fra UK lige nu hvor vekselkursen er lav. Hello folks I'm a 16 years old boy from Copenhagen in Denmark. I've been photographing a lot the 3 and a half past years. I've begun mastering the manual techniques, and in my own apenion very well. For the past 6 monthes I've been shooting with a full manual Canon SLR from the '70s I borrowed from my grandmother and I've enjoyed it a lot! So my question goes, I have over the years, that I've been photographing bought some automatic Canon gear including a L-lens. Now I'm thinking very much of selling it and buying a Leica M6, I have tried it a couple of times and every time it just blows my mind it's everything everyone have ever said it should be. I'm hooked. So do you people in here think that it would be a good idea to sell all of my also very loved Canon gear, and buy a M6? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted January 24, 2009 Jeg har allerede været inde og snakke med dem i Photografica og man kan virkelig mærke at det er noget specielt man står med i hånden når man holder sådan et Leica. Det er noget helt andet end noget som helst kamera jeg nogensinde har prøvet før. Jeg tror jeg vil få solgt mit digitale spejlrefleks og mit ellers rigtig gode L objektiv, og så købe mig et af de legendariske Lecia M kameraer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminw Posted January 24, 2009 Share #6 Posted January 24, 2009 Go and get the M6 ... you'll love it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted January 24, 2009 Share #7 Posted January 24, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Go on! What are you waiting for? Do it. 'nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted January 24, 2009 I'm convinced now, I think i will put my Canon gear on sale and buy the M6 when i got the money to do so I'm a bit ecxited now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkmingle Posted January 24, 2009 Share #9 Posted January 24, 2009 (danish again - sorry) Ja sådan har jeg det også. Så skal du vel også have et objektiv til fætteren? Jeg har allerede været inde og snakke med dem i Photografica og man kan virkelig mærke at det er noget specielt man står med i hånden når man holder sådan et Leica. Det er noget helt andet end noget som helst kamera jeg nogensinde har prøvet før. Jeg tror jeg vil få solgt mit digitale spejlrefleks og mit ellers rigtig gode L objektiv, og så købe mig et af de legendariske Lecia M kameraer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted January 24, 2009 Det skal jeg da Tænker lidt på enten et 35mm på blænde 1,4 eller 2,0, eller en 50mm på blænde 1,4 eller 2,0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkmingle Posted January 24, 2009 Share #11 Posted January 24, 2009 Hvis det var mig ville jeg tage en Summicron 35 Asph. Der er jo også M8 hvis det hele skal være digitalt i stedet Det skal jeg da Tænker lidt på enten et 35mm på blænde 1,4 eller 2,0, eller en 50mm på blænde 1,4 eller 2,0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted January 24, 2009 Men er kun 16 og har ikke ubegrænset med penge (desværre) så tror det er lidt for dyrt, selvom det virkelig er er fedt objektiv (har godt set på det) og så er det også rimelig svært at finde brugt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinvath Posted January 24, 2009 Share #13 Posted January 24, 2009 Hej Simon Du kan også prøve med Konica Hexar AF som har en fast 35mm/2.0 i Leica kvalitet. Kameraet har samme størrelse som et M6, men AF og "lydløs" motor. Super fedt målsøgerapparat som kan findes brugt fra kr. 1500,- De har også et par stk. hos Photografica til omkr. 2500,- Hvis fotostilen med et sådan kamera passer dig, kan du senere opgradere til rigtig Leica. Hexar apparaterne holder prisen, så du kommer ikke til at tabe penge på det, de er temmelig kult;o) Mvh. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted January 24, 2009 Share #14 Posted January 24, 2009 You are very lucky to have access to such great tools at such a young age. I only was able to acquire a very used Nikon EL2 by the time I was 16. I have a rule that I learned the hard way. Never sell gear to buy gear. Only sell gear you no longer enjoy or will no longer use. You will get very little money out of your existing equipment, something like 1/3 to 1/2 what it will cost to replace it later. I would concentrate on your existing gear and master the tool. You should set a goal of knowing how to achieve what you desire with your tools before you push the shutter release. A similar thing could be said about digital imaging software. If you go to an M6, you will lose instant access and instant feedback to the images that digital offers you. You will also have to acquire a negative scanner or have the images scanned at the time of processing if you want to continue to work in the digital darkroom. The Leica M series are wonderful machines, do not misinterpret my comments there. I would suggest a more conservative approach of saving for one, renting or borrowing now and then in the mean time. An M2 and lens should be around $800-1000. An M6 and more current lens $1500. Most importantly, enjoy the hobby. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trix Posted January 24, 2009 Share #15 Posted January 24, 2009 I did it in 2002. I sold 2 Eos3 bodies, 7 lenses and 2 flashes after i bought a used Konica Hexar and later a Hexar RF. I never looked back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon... Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted January 24, 2009 You are very lucky to have access to such great tools at such a young age. I only was able to acquire a very used Nikon EL2 by the time I was 16. I have a rule that I learned the hard way. Never sell gear to buy gear. Only sell gear you no longer enjoy or will no longer use. You will get very little money out of your existing equipment, something like 1/3 to 1/2 what it will cost to replace it later. I would concentrate on your existing gear and master the tool. You should set a goal of knowing how to achieve what you desire with your tools before you push the shutter release. A similar thing could be said about digital imaging software. If you go to an M6, you will lose instant access and instant feedback to the images that digital offers you. You will also have to acquire a negative scanner or have the images scanned at the time of processing if you want to continue to work in the digital darkroom. The Leica M series are wonderful machines, do not misinterpret my comments there. I would suggest a more conservative approach of saving for one, renting or borrowing now and then in the mean time. An M2 and lens should be around $800-1000. An M6 and more current lens $1500. Most importantly, enjoy the hobby. Eric Hey Eric Thanks for your comment I already have a scanner to scan the films I'm taking now, and I know how to develop film in my bathroom and do it often. So on that point I'm all covered in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 24, 2009 Share #17 Posted January 24, 2009 Simon, Leica have a "Student Assistance Program" In this country there is an automatic twenty-five percent discount on all the new items for students enrolled in a photography curriculum, directly from Leica Check with your local Leica dealer if you can benefit from the same program where you live Hang around here and we'll give you as much encouragement and help as we can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 24, 2009 Share #18 Posted January 24, 2009 Simon, I got into Leica when I was about your age, I happened to read an article on the cameras and then a couple of days later saw a lovely lllf in a camera shop window and had to have it - and still have and use it today (and a few other Leicas now). Go for it, but bear in mind a few points. The M are not so good for telephoto work. If you use tele/zooms a lot think again. If mostly you shoot wide to standard then fine (yes you can get visoflexes etc. but I'm talking about practicality here). Same with close up/macro work. An SLR is better for those applications. Also bear in mind the cost of lenses - if you want the best Leica lenses you might find yourself saving for a long time to get them. However, you can get by - and may be a better photographer for - sticking with just a few lenses rather than thinking you need to cover every possibility from ultra wide to long tele. That said there are the excellent Voigtlanders and plenty of s/h Leica optics, screw fit ones work too with an adaptor. Good luck with your choice!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 24, 2009 Share #19 Posted January 24, 2009 Hi Simon, Good on you for your decision! As you can see, there are lots of opinions here. Some of them are feisty, but it's always lively discussion -- Leica is a community, so you get lots of support. I think it's great young people are keen on Leica. I was unaware there was a program; this needs more promotion. One comment a while ago was that young people need more "funky" products from Leica (whatever that means), but I don't know if that is the answer. What do you think? There is a big difference between the SLR and rangefinder approach to photography. My first serious camera was a little Olympus rangefinder, when I was 12. I later went into SLRs, then back to rangefinder with Leica. Your M6 will last a lifetime, so although it seems expensive to start off with, it is a worthwhile investment. Leica is simple. By using an M-series Leica (or a Leica film SLR for that matter) you concentrate on the essentials. Composition, shutter speed, aperture, focus. You really don't need all those menus and modes and programs -- they just make photography a zillion times more complicated than it needs to be. And you can also achieve a hell of a lot with just one lens (50 or 35 are best to start with). I thoroughly recommend getting some books by great photographers (Henri Cartier-Bresson, Ansel Adams...) and also checking out photography websites (David Allan Harvey, for example). But the best fun is actually using your camera. Cheers, David David Killick, Freelance Journalist and Photographer, New Zealand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted January 24, 2009 Share #20 Posted January 24, 2009 I guess someone needs to be the Advocatus Diaboli in this round. It's a challenging statement in the film forum, however I have the feeling the 'learning curve' is much steeper using a digital camera compared to film. I guess it is the immediate feedback over the monitor. I just got a film scanner and sorted a bit through my old negatives but have to admit most of my pre-digital images don't impress me any more. But you mention you take photos for several years now and might be well through this learning curve. Lots of people come back to film after some years on digital cameras (I'm re-discovering film myself a bit after some digital years). Rangefinders provoke strong views, some like them, others don't. The limitations of the system have been mentioned. If there is a chance to try one, it might be helpful for the decision, whether it is the right tool. Myself, I'm taking almost all of my photos with M-Leicas (mainly M8 and M6, on a sunny day the M3 gets some exercise) now. Since I re-discovered Leicas, the Nikon is collecting dust. With a SLR, I tend to look 'through' the viewfinder, thereby ignoring disturbing elements. With the Rangefinder, the image appears to be to me more like the final two-dimensional image. I also like seeing more than the actual image (for most lenses) which helps to spot better alternatives. But this is my personal experience and no 'universal truth'. Lots of excellent photos are done with SLRs. Starting on film-Leicas, the M6 seems to be one of the best choices, in my view. It has a built in meter, is relatively affordable and has all quintessential M-features. Leicas have a strong emotional factor, but where would we be, if everything were just rational. Have fun, whatever you decision is (and we certainly won't object, if it is the M6) Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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