earleygallery Posted December 29, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just tried to load a roll of Neopan 1600 onto a Paterson reel and it keeps sticking about half way round. I wasted another roll of film to try and load it in daylight, to see if there was an obvious problem, and that roll loaded fine. The Neopan feels thinner and I suspect its sticking to the plastic reel for some reason. Before I give up and cut it in half (and no doubt waste a shot) has anyone got any suggestions how I can get it to load? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MPerson Posted December 29, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 29, 2008 James - try tapping the reel when it jams. I have suffered the same problem with Patterson reels for no apparent reason. I have found tapping it quite vigorously on its side works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted December 29, 2008 Thanks, I'll give that a try now...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share #4 Posted December 29, 2008 Well, I managed to get it on the reel, lots of tapping! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #5 Posted December 29, 2008 In yesteryear when I used those reels, the usual cause of a jam was a sharp corner on the end of the film; I started snipping off a tiny angled piece from each corner and this usually did the trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted December 29, 2008 I'll try that next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattLain Posted December 29, 2008 Share #7 Posted December 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) warm up the reel with a hairdryer or electric fan for just a minute (but not the black tube!) flick the ball-bearings with a pen or pointy thing to make sure they're loose and not jammed. when you get the first bit of the leader onto the reel, pull it through with your fingertips as far as it can go. all of that usually gets the film in smoothly and cleanly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 29, 2008 Share #8 Posted December 29, 2008 In yesteryear when I used those reels, the usual cause of a jam was a sharp corner on the end of the film; I started snipping off a tiny angled piece from each corner and this usually did the trick. Never had this problem but I always cut the corners at the lead end of the film. I cut it at about 45°. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted December 29, 2008 Share #9 Posted December 29, 2008 James, the advice given has been good. It's a while since I shot any Neopan 1600, but I don't remember there being a problem loading the reels - and I use the same ones. After a while the spirals tend to get a little pitted - i.e. the edges of the spirals aren't totally smooth. When that happens it's best to throw them away. One other piece of advice, don't be tempted to dry the tanks themselves in an oven. The plastic appears to have a very low 'sagging' temperature. No need to ask how I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #10 Posted December 29, 2008 James, the advice given has been good. It's a while since I shot any Neopan 1600, but I don't remember there being a problem loading the reels - and I use the same ones. After a while the spirals tend to get a little pitted - i.e. the edges of the spirals aren't totally smooth. When that happens it's best to throw them away. One other piece of advice, don't be tempted to dry the tanks themselves in an oven. The plastic appears to have a very low 'sagging' temperature. No need to ask how I know. Bit they do make great spiral rings in't top o't pie dough before baking them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Macmillan Posted December 29, 2008 Share #11 Posted December 29, 2008 Running an ordinary graphite pencil round the grooves was said to act as a lubricant for the film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted December 29, 2008 Share #12 Posted December 29, 2008 Bit they do make great spiral rings in't top o't pie dough before baking them. In the lands of the North where the black rocks stand guard against the cold sea, the men of the Northlands sit by their great log fires and they tell a tale...... Good - but not as good as The Pogles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted December 29, 2008 Share #13 Posted December 29, 2008 In yesteryear when I used those reels, the usual cause of a jam was a sharp corner on the end of the film; I started snipping off a tiny angled piece from each corner and this usually did the trick. I had the same problem with JOBO reels - with the same fix. Also make sure the reels are reely (I know, I'll shut up) dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share #15 Posted December 30, 2008 Oh dear oh dear oh dear!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhulbert Posted December 30, 2008 Share #16 Posted December 30, 2008 Never had a problem with 35mm, but yesterday tried loading 120 in a Paterson and it was complete nightmare. I gave up after a while. The cutting off the edges is the way suggested by a few sites on the web. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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