thpeters Posted October 16, 2006 Share #1 Posted October 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, With respect to the people who post pictures on your website, I like to see included the in the rules that without permission from the photographer. It is his or her work and he or she knows exactly what the moment was from that picture or pictures. No body has the right to make changes on a particular photograph and post it again. Comment and suggestions are ok, myself and others learn from this. I appriciate you could look in to it and get back to me about this. Regards, Theo Peters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kamilsukun Posted October 16, 2006 Share #2 Posted October 16, 2006 Re-interpretations of a posted photograph enhances the quality and the meaning of the forum. Members must be tolerent and open minded in this matter. Regards, Kamil Sukun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 16, 2006 Share #3 Posted October 16, 2006 Theo I have "suffered" from this in the past. In some cases, in my opinion, a better photograph has resulted, in some cases not. It all depends upon whether one is choosing to use the forum as a showcase for one's work, or whether one is seeking, in addition, to learn from the experience of others. In any case, I think it right that, should someone wish to make an amendment to an image, it would be courteous to seek permission first, maybe through the Private Message system that the forum now offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richam Posted October 16, 2006 Share #4 Posted October 16, 2006 Regarding the alteration and re-posting of images, I suggest that we can include a statement in our signatures indicating our preferences on this matter. This seems like an easier and better solution than implementing a hard and fast rule. One can add one of the following to one's signature: "Permission granted to alter and re-post my images." "No image alteration without my prior approval." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 16, 2006 Share #5 Posted October 16, 2006 Folks: I have moved these posts to a new thread to keep the Forum Rules thread "clean". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted October 16, 2006 Share #6 Posted October 16, 2006 Fair enough. Azzo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted October 16, 2006 Share #7 Posted October 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Regarding the alteration and re-posting of images, I suggest that we can include a statement in our signatures indicating our preferences on this matter. This seems like an easier and better solution than implementing a hard and fast rule. One can add one of the following to one's signature: "Permission granted to alter and re-post my images." "No image alteration without my prior approval." I think this is a good idea. I'd prefer that without such a statement everyone may assume that it's ok to alter and repost that image in the same thread. At least this is a forum and not a gallery (which may be added in the future). Regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted October 16, 2006 Share #8 Posted October 16, 2006 I think this is a good idea. I'd prefer that without such a statement everyone may assume that it's ok to alter and repost that image in the same thread. At least this is a forum and not a gallery (which may be added in the future). Regards Andreas I agree. Regards, Kamil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 16, 2006 Share #9 Posted October 16, 2006 One of my images was hijacked like this recently. I didn't mind - it's nice that people take the time and interest to respond to my threads, but they altered it becase it had a 'colour cast' so my early evening shot became something that looked like it was shot at midday. Most other examples I've seen where people tinker with the tone/saturation/contrast they end up over-doing it. We also need to remember that we are looking at images on monitors which aren't calibrated to one another. However there have also been cases where someone has offered advice on possible scanning faults and cropping alternatives. I agree that the best solution is as proposed, just put a note on your thread if it bothers you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 16, 2006 Share #10 Posted October 16, 2006 My images are taken with a Leica and by inference are so damned good no one would dare to touch them. I own the space on this site that my photos occupy. I am thinking of charging admission. Lord R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted October 16, 2006 Share #11 Posted October 16, 2006 I agree with Andreas - free to alter and repost unless asked not to. We all need help from time to time - that's what friends are for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted October 16, 2006 Share #12 Posted October 16, 2006 I feel strongly that the mission of the Forum is (at least in part) to help members take better photographs with Leica cameras. I for one have grown tremendously by observing just this process of give and take where one photographer corrects, or crops, or otherwise demonstrates a different vision than the original poster. A policy of "Do Touch" unless otherwise stated strikes me as the right way to go here. I also think we need to hasten the arrival of a Leica Camera User Forum "Gallery" to accomodate those who do not wish to see alteration of their photographs. I know we've discussed this before and believe now is a good time to start looking into how to make it happen technically and financially. Thanks. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 17, 2006 Share #13 Posted October 17, 2006 I disagree. a Photograph is a collective experience to be shared by all. Edit away! If someone does it better, pourquoi pas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted October 17, 2006 Share #14 Posted October 17, 2006 Believe it or not, the unsolicited alteration of my postings has made me a much better photographer.....REALLY, PROMISE, SCOUT'S HONOR.....you should have seen how much worse they were....DD used to shoot bullet-holes through them and I would just laugh, and show his interpretations to my friends.......Freedom To Touch Unless Instructed Otherwise.......I vote for this......Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted October 17, 2006 Albertwang wrote: I disagree. a Photograph is a collective experience to be shared by all. Edit away! If someone does it better, pourquoi pas? I DONT THINK SO............ I never take ownership of the image from the photographer. It his or her creation and I respect this! Cool Images and Looks come first from the "Capture Moment" Not by manupulation by others with Photoshop or any other Software program and if that is going to happen then I always go for the natural look. Images should appear natural. People should never question the fact whether this image was manipulated or not. Happy autumn shooting for every body. Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted October 18, 2006 Share #16 Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Theo, what do you say if a member likes a particular photo, but also thinks that by a few adjustments to the original, it would look even better !? Let me explain and maybe you can enlighten me.I sometimes do open a member's image on Ph Shop. When i do this, it's because i liked the photo first of all or maybe i notice that a member is new to photography. I draw my personal conclusions and always give my honest opinion, simply 'cos i believe it will look better, but i never re post as i have stated before on this forum (i don't even know how let alone post ) . It is not my image so i delete immediately after PS. The author of the photo may or may not like my idea, but i for one, always listen to critique. Sometimes i agree and sometimes i don't, but one thing's for sure, you do learn through critique. So am i doing wrong or right by giving my opinion to members ? Best Regards Azzo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 18, 2006 Share #17 Posted October 18, 2006 Consensus of opinion is "Critique at your peril". Don't invest hard earned time and considered opinion. Run with the sheep and say "Great catch Leica moment" or hold your peace and say nothing, otherwise people get the shits. Heh...tautology. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted October 18, 2006 Share #18 Posted October 18, 2006 Suggestions and constructive criticism is always welcome, that's how one learns. If someone is going to re-post then explain what has been altered from the original, but like James said above be careful not to change the shot into something it was not intended to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted October 18, 2006 Share #19 Posted October 18, 2006 If someone is going to re-post then explain what has been altered from the original, Perhaps, what and HOW (step by step) the image has been altered. So it becomes a benefit for all. Not only "Look what I have done!" Regards, Kamil Sukun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share #20 Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Theo, what do you say if a member likes a particular photo, but also thinks that by a few adjustments to the original, it would look even better !? Let me explain and maybe you can enlighten me.I sometimes do open a member's image on Ph Shop. When i do this, it's because i liked the photo first of all or maybe i notice that a member is new to photography. I draw my personal conclusions and always give my honest opinion, simply 'cos i believe it will look better, but i never re post as i have stated before on this forum (i don't even know how let alone post ) . It is not my image so i delete immediately after PS. The author of the photo may or may not like my idea, but i for one, always listen to critique. Sometimes i agree and sometimes i don't, but one thing's for sure, you do learn through critique. So am i doing wrong or right by giving my opinion to members ? Best Regards Azzo Everybody has there own opinion and the right to expres. But it is simple:..... "my opinion"..... dont touch my pictures without my approval. Go and shoot, post it, and let we all enjoy it, and give comments if you or others like to do that. The reason why I am here, is to post my work, people respect each other on this website. Regards, Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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