gebbos Posted December 20, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 20, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, Anyone here knows the five letter magical code for the focussing mount which will allow to mount the head of an Elmar 4/90 on a Visoflex I (i.e. LTM)? I did find that the OUAGO can be used to mount it on a Visoflex II, but that's not what I'm looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Hi gebbos, Take a look here Help mounting Elmar 4/90 on Visoflex 1. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ejd Posted December 20, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 20, 2008 It is possible that there is not one. The shortest focal length lens that you can focus to infinity on a Viso 1 is 125mm, if I recall correctly, and there is a 125mm lens for that purpose. You can get a short focussing mount for the head of a 135 f4.5 Hector on a Viso 1. But not for a 90 mm -- as I recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gebbos Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted December 20, 2008 Aha, that would explain why I could not find it! Thanks! Indeed, for focusing at infinity, the lens head is at about 79 mm from the film, and for a minimum focusing distance of 1 m it is at about 68 mm. Given that the mount register of a Visoflex I is 62.5 mm, there is not much space for a focusing mount. So I guess the only way to use the Elmar head out of its normal mount is either on the Visoflex II or III, or by adapting it for use on bellows. If I now understand things well, the UOOWV - 16585 would adapt it to LTM (?), after which one needs an UOOYW to put it on bellows. Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 20, 2008 Share #4 Posted December 20, 2008 Aha, that would explain why I could not find it! Thanks! Indeed, for focusing at infinity, the lens head is at about 79 mm from the film, and for a minimum focusing distance of 1 m it is at about 68 mm. Given that the mount register of a Visoflex I is 62.5 mm, there is not much space for a focusing mount. So I guess the only way to use the Elmar head out of its normal mount is either on the Visoflex II or III, or by adapting it for use on bellows. If I now understand things well, the UOOWV - 16585 would adapt it to LTM (?), after which one needs an UOOYW to put it on bellows. Right? That's right: of course, referred to the Bellows 1, which is the only that fits the Viso 1: the UOOYW (aka 16590) is indeed part of the UOOST set which usually is included in the bellows 1; of course, the Elmar 90 head works only as a macro lens... to be able to focus it at infinity, one must switch to Visoflex II/III: the Viso II, anyway, was available also in LTM (but I suppose is not so easy to find one) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 20, 2008 Share #5 Posted December 20, 2008 The 90mm Elmar lens heads mounts to the UOOWV (16585) tube which in term mounts to the UOOYW (16590) adapter. This combination fits both Bellows I and Bellows II. The combination is coded UOOTG (16575). There are 4 reflex housings: PLOOT (for LTM only), Visoflex I (LTM and LBM versions), Visoflex II (LTM and LBM versions), and Visoflex III (for LBM only). Bellows I only works with PLOOT and Visoflex I. Bellows II only works with Visoflex II and III. The PLOOT/VI film plane is 91.3mm from the LTM lens mount. The VII/III film plane is 68.8mm from the LBM lens mount. Thus 90mm Elmar can only be used for close up on PLOOT/VI. It can focus to infinity, properly mounted with 16558 adapter, on VII/III. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 20, 2008 Share #6 Posted December 20, 2008 l also should have mentioned that 16558, the standard lens board from Bellows II, also works on Bellows I. The 90mm Elmar then focuses further away, but no where near to infinity. All these parts were made in large numbers and are easily, and economically, available. You probably can find all of them on e-bay on any given day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gebbos Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted December 20, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Edit: My mistake: Visoflex I mount register is 91.3, which is 27.8+62.5 mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 21, 2008 Share #8 Posted December 21, 2008 Hello, Here is, the Universal Repro mount for Elmar 4/90 head (here an E39 one) on Viso I kind of ZOOAN, but you cannot get infinity focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/71837-help-mounting-elmar-490-on-visoflex-1/?do=findComment&comment=753420'>More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 21, 2008 Share #9 Posted December 21, 2008 Edit: My mistake: Visoflex I mount register is 91.3, which is 27.8+62.5 mm. 1 mm minus when in use are M body & Viso I M mount as illustrated above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 21, 2008 Share #10 Posted December 21, 2008 Hello,Here is, the Universal Repro mount for Elmar 4/90 head (here an E39 one) on Viso I kind of ZOOAN, but you cannot get infinity focus Mmmmhhh... one of the few accessories for 4/90 I've not... : it's the COOED, right ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 21, 2008 Share #11 Posted December 21, 2008 Mmmmhhh... one of the few accessories for 4/90 I've not... : it's the COOED, right ? Yes it is, Luigi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 21, 2008 Share #12 Posted December 21, 2008 jc_braconi, The lens mount to film plane numbers are the same whether screw mount or bayonet camera. Yes, the M body is 27.8mm thick while the S body is 28.8mm thick. To make up for it, the LTM PLOOT and VI are 62.5mm thick, while the M VI is 63.5mm thick. The LTM VII is 40.0mm thick while the LBM VII & VIII are 41.0mm thick. Otherwise Visoflex I and II lenses would not work right on both M & S cameras. It would be a huge mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 21, 2008 Share #13 Posted December 21, 2008 the M body is 27.8mm thick while the S body is 28.8mm thick Not really thick, but respectives distances from front flange to film plan. Yes I know that, just that the dimensions from gebbos are a bit restrictives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 21, 2008 Share #14 Posted December 21, 2008 Yes, lens mount to film plane. Use whatever adjective you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 21, 2008 Share #15 Posted December 21, 2008 Yes, lens mount to film plane. Use whatever adjective you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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