alexc Posted November 19, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 19, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got a word from cameraquest that adapters M to micro four thirds will be available in late December. I think this is great. I am looking forward to use G1 with my leica lenses. There will be no autofocus of course. It would be interesting to see comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thai.charlie Posted November 19, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 19, 2008 It was discussed in this THREAD Even if it does focus to infinity (does it?) you will double your focal length, ie, your 50mm summilux will be a 100mm summilux (which could be interesting). But you'd be fast wide-angle challenged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimF Posted November 19, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 19, 2008 Yeah, but imagine that 100mm f/0.95 Nocti!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 19, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 19, 2008 I don't see why wouldn't it allow infinty focus... sensor to flange distance is 20mm in Micro 4/3, vs. 27,4 for Leica M... lot of space for an adapter: and in the linked (funny) Japanese forum one can see even a Pentax 110 lens fitted on a Lumix G1 (maybe a joke, ok... ) No great choice of WAs, true, but both 15 and 12 from CV are so compact... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 20, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 20, 2008 Leica were happy to promote the idea of using R lenses on a Digilux 3 so this is no different and allows us for the first time to use M glass on a non-M camera. Given the cost of the camera and the adapter, it will be a fun thing to try out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordfanjpn Posted November 20, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 20, 2008 Leica were happy to promote the idea of using R lenses on a Digilux 3 so this is no different and allows us for the first time to use M glass on a non-M camera. Given the cost of the camera and the adapter, it will be a fun thing to try out. I have my G1, just waiting for the adapter to come out! Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 20, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 20, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wide-angle's a problem of course, but the 15mm CV takes you to 30mm which was what I had in my Meyer Optik Goerlitz Lydith on a Praktica 35 years ago... For the cost - low in comparison to even upgrading an M8 to 8.2, it will be interesting to try, though I'll pass on the red G1... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted November 20, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 20, 2008 I'm in for one next year when the adapter is out. Serves as a nice back up. Probably more reliable also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 20, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 20, 2008 Plus, it has the huge advantage of sensing actual focus rather than relying on the clunky M rangefinder and all the alignment hassles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai.charlie Posted November 20, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 20, 2008 yes the red G1 looks awful! I wonder how challenging it will be to manually focus an M lens the electronic viewfinder/LCD. I can see how the camera would be interesting as a second "M body" shooting medium to telephoto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted November 20, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 20, 2008 yes the red G1 looks awful! I wonder how challenging it will be to manually focus an M lens the electronic viewfinder/LCD. I can see how the camera would be interesting as a second "M body" shooting medium to telephoto. I tried one last week at the Paris Photo fair and the manual focus feature is interesting. You can actually see a zoomed focus zone to be help you out. My concern is speed, it takes more time to focus than on a rangefinder so will be difficult, especially in street photography. Also with the crop factor and small sensor, you can basically forget about throwing background out of focus, especially with wide angles. All in all, this is probably generation -2 before we see a viable alternative/back-up for the M's. A G2 is already announced but Olympus might in the end have the first real alternative based on its prototypes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khun_k Posted November 20, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 20, 2008 I tried one last week at the Paris Photo fair and the manual focus feature is interesting. You can actually see a zoomed focus zone to be help you out. My concern is speed, it takes more time to focus than on a rangefinder so will be difficult, especially in street photography. Also with the crop factor and small sensor, you can basically forget about throwing background out of focus, especially with wide angles. All in all, this is probably generation -2 before we see a viable alternative/back-up for the M's. A G2 is already announced but Olympus might in the end have the first real alternative based on its prototypes. Just wondered if eventually Zeiss also want to bring the much loved, but long forgotten G series into digital play? That would be a huge success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted November 20, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 20, 2008 ... the 15mm CV takes you to 30mm ... Indeed, but f4.5 it's very slow for a 30-35... you could also use the CV 12, but again a 24 FOV at f5.6 is not exactly fast either. I think the Micro 4/3 could be a very good complement for a M user to get really fast tele''s FOV: carrying a Micro 4/3 camera together with a M will allow you to use the wides on the M(8, or film M) and having a very small and light (relatively, of course) 180 f2 FOV, 150 f1.4 FOV setup available, which is very cool. But wides - forget about it IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimF Posted November 20, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 20, 2008 Indeed, but f4.5 it's very slow for a 30-35... you could also use the CV 12, but again a 24 FOV at f5.6 is not exactly fast either. I think the Micro 4/3 could be a very good complement for a M user to get really fast tele''s FOV: carrying a Micro 4/3 camera together with a M will allow you to use the wides on the M(8, or film M) and having a very small and light (relatively, of course) 180 f2 FOV, 150 f1.4 FOV setup available, which is very cool. But wides - forget about it IMHO. It does open up possibilities for the Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 though, eh! Form an orderly queue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted November 20, 2008 Share #15 Posted November 20, 2008 It does open up possibilities for the Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 though, eh! Form an orderly queue. ...it does indeed, if you like to spend a lot of money for a 30-35 f2.8 and carry around a behemoth of a lens with you! I'd say, to compare it with lenses of the same speed, not quite as practical as the Zeiss 35/2.8 on a film M, or the 24 f2.8 on a M8, size-wise maybe you mean to form an orderly cue to the gym to be able to carry that thing with you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 20, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 20, 2008 yes the red G1 looks awful! I wonder how challenging it will be to manually focus an M lens the electronic viewfinder/LCD. I can see how the camera would be interesting as a second "M body" shooting medium to telephoto. In manual mode, the G1 can show the focus zone zoomed (I believe 10x), which makes focusing with long lenses a treat. I tried it with the Panasonic 14-150mm and the Olympus Macro 50mm and the focus zone magnifier worked fantastically, whereas with a Pentax lens and k-mount to 4/3 adapter mounted on the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter I could not make it work. I hope the m-mount adapter will allow the use of the focus zoom, but don't see how stop down metering could be avoided. Using 70 f1.2, 100 f1.4, 150 f2.0 and 180 f2.0 focal lengths on the G1 sounds exciting and carrying it as a backup with the M8 make for a wounderfully versatile travel set. And m-lenses with focus shift could get a second live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai.charlie Posted November 20, 2008 Share #17 Posted November 20, 2008 In manual mode, the G1 can show the focus zone zoomed (I believe 10x), which makes focusing with long lenses a treat. I tried it with the Panasonic 14-150mm and the Olympus Macro 50mm and the focus zone magnifier worked fantastically, whereas with a Pentax lens and k-mount to 4/3 adapter mounted on the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter I could not make it work. I was wondering about this. The "focus zone zoomed" only works with their panasonic and olympus lenses which have electronics in them. If Pentax K lens via mount does not activate the zoomed focus zone, a Leica M lens via adaptor won't either. You'd have to eyeball the full LCD screen for focus. Probably tough for critical focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted November 20, 2008 Share #18 Posted November 20, 2008 I was wondering about this. The "focus zone zoomed" only works with their panasonic and olympus lenses which have electronics in them. If Pentax K lens via mount does not activate the zoomed focus zone, a Leica M lens via adaptor won't either. You'd have to eyeball the full LCD screen for focus. Probably tough for critical focus. The "focus zone zoomed" is operated through the focus ring on the lens (actually I had forgotten it was an autofocus camera and moved it instinctly ) Therefore, yes there is electronic circuity involved. (unless the software can detect the focal variation... ) M focus through the LCD will be an other story... much more complicated IMO, forget about quick snaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelc Posted November 20, 2008 Share #19 Posted November 20, 2008 hey Bill ,,,could you share your feelings about the g1?....is the image quality in the m8 league?...I've decided to get a canon 5d mii instead of another m8 or m8.2 -it's half the price for one and having had a 1dsii in the past i know what to expect ....and i wanted a second system for high iso...though i only wish there was such an adaptor for the canon so to use the lieca glass on it...but if it works on the g1 then that's a plus if the sensor on it is real m quality...thanks mike Mike Cetta | Fine Art Photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted November 20, 2008 Share #20 Posted November 20, 2008 In manual mode, the G1 can show the focus zone zoomed (I believe 10x), which makes focusing with long lenses a treat. I tried it with the Panasonic 14-150mm and the Olympus Macro 50mm and the focus zone magnifier worked fantastically, whereas with a Pentax lens and k-mount to 4/3 adapter mounted on the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter I could not make it work. I hope the m-mount adapter will allow the use of the focus zoom, but don't see how stop down metering could be avoided. Using 70 f1.2, 100 f1.4, 150 f2.0 and 180 f2.0 focal lengths on the G1 sounds exciting and carrying it as a backup with the M8 make for a wounderfully versatile travel set. And m-lenses with focus shift could get a second live. I read on another forum that the focus zoom can be activated at will with one of the buttons on the fourway control right under your thumb. The person reporting this had the FT>mFT adapter and had used OM and R lenses with their adapters. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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