luigi bertolotti Posted September 24, 2008 Share #21 Posted September 24, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share #22 Posted September 24, 2008 Why do dpreview put their watermark on a Leica image? Because he doesn't understand copyright? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierovitch Posted September 24, 2008 Share #23 Posted September 24, 2008 I think it has more to do with images of cameras on e-bay. No S2 systems listed for auction yet? I guess the zenit factory takes a few days to ramp up production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2008 Share #24 Posted September 25, 2008 the real question will be who will be the first to shoot with one. My money is on Guy Mantusco being one of the first to order the complete set. It depends on how much he got for all his M8 gear. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 3, 2008 Share #25 Posted October 3, 2008 the real question will be who will be the first to shoot with one. My guess is Eric Clapton, Seal, or Bryan Adams; £££ to burn, keen on photography and the S2 is the latest new thing. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted October 3, 2008 Share #26 Posted October 3, 2008 What about an amateur S2 forum? :D Anyway, that nice tilt-shift wide angle looks like a panacea for Architecture photography... mmm... and without the hassle of a Hasselblad...mmm... Maybe it's time for the SWC to come back in the closet... I just have to find some money:rolleyes: Marizio, I don't understand you view that a Hasselblad is a "hassle". I am completely unfamiliar with the (promised) virtues of the S2 and particularly the tilt/shift lens, but my experience with Hasselblad is that it is very user friendly. I know "one size fits all" is no solution, so maybe your requirements are quite different from mine. Could you please tell how you see the S2 as a better alternative to a Hasselblad, or rather for what sort of work? In my case, I have a very extensive Hasselblad outfit (mostly idle these days ) so My investment locks me in to where I am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 3, 2008 Share #27 Posted October 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) My money is on Guy Mantusco being one of the first to order the complete set.It depends on how much he got for all his M8 gear. Brian Honestly i would love to test it first . So I throw my name in the hat :D I hope it is what it says on paper , although there missing a 45mm lens on it( aka 35mm in 35mm) and i don't like a 110 ( too short and too close to the 70mm), like to see them make a 130mm or 140mm CS F2 instead . This spreads the gaps better and actually works better in reality with MF. Also make the 120 macro a T/S lens for table top work with close focusing like 2 ft and make extension tubes ( aka Canon 90mm TSE or Nikon 85mm PC lens, they both focus very close and eliminates the macro per say but with nice extension tubes to get to 1.1). Just my thoughts on the glass selections. Oh and for Doug a 1.4 for the 350mm lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 3, 2008 Share #28 Posted October 3, 2008 Marizio, I don't understand you view that a Hasselblad is a "hassle". I am completely unfamiliar with the (promised) virtues of the S2 and particularly the tilt/shift lens, but my experience with Hasselblad is that it is very user friendly. I know "one size fits all" is no solution, so maybe your requirements are quite different from mine. Could you please tell how you see the S2 as a better alternative to a Hasselblad, or rather for what sort of work? In my case, I have a very extensive Hasselblad outfit (mostly idle these days ) so My investment locks me in to where I am. Erl, Hassle-Hasselbad was mainly just a words' game. Anyway, and here I'm serius, I really love the SWC, but I never "pushed" my hasselblad into the digital era (see that I don't have a large Hasselblad outfit) The reasons were more than one: 1) I like to use the Hassy for Architecture photography ( that's why I love the SWC), so until it's film, no problem at all, when it comes to a digital back, I couldn't accept the limited iso range, and higher iso is a "must" for me, when shooting at dusk or sunrise (no tripod) 2) many digital backs' sensors weren't large enough to justify (IMHO) the expense. 3)being it a digital back, or the H3D, the portability was not a quality of digital Hasselblads, while it was when I carried only the SWC. Given these facts, I'm really tempted by the S2, it may be a great move by Leica, for people who need portability and quality at the same time like me. Then again I could always find some work to do with it that I would probably have approached with the DSLR. That's interesting IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 3, 2008 Share #29 Posted October 3, 2008 Erl, sorry, I did forget to mention the tilt/shift. That lens will probably be my "green light" to that experience considering that the S2 should be my "architecture camera" (If I found the money:p ). Matter of fact I was there ready to buy a D700 with the new 24mm tilt/shift nikkor lens to get that kind of lens, but in the end I didn't like that much the quality of the lens itself, and this is what stop me to consider Nikon(DSLR) for that use. I trust Leica quality, so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted October 3, 2008 Share #30 Posted October 3, 2008 Fair enough explanation, thank Mauritzio. Regarding the tilt/shift, could you not just use PS or other software to make your corrections. Oh, I guess with architechture you need to have focus over a wider range or shift your focus. Always something different isn't there! I'm still dreaming of a cheap full frame sensor for the Blad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 3, 2008 Share #31 Posted October 3, 2008 Erl,sorry, I did forget to mention the tilt/shift. That lens will probably be my "green light" to that experience considering that the S2 should be my "architecture camera" (If I found the money:p ). Matter of fact I was there ready to buy a D700 with the new 24mm tilt/shift nikkor lens to get that kind of lens, but in the end I didn't like that much the quality of the lens itself, and this is what stop me to consider Nikon(DSLR) for that use. I trust Leica quality, so... Did you test the new NIkon 24mm T/S? What did you think, compared to other solutions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 3, 2008 Share #32 Posted October 3, 2008 Did you test the new NIkon 24mm T/S? What did you think, compared to other solutions? Yep Carsten. I have to admit since I compared it to the 24mm T/S by canon that the Nikon is much superior (especially in the borders) in terms of detail (newer design?), and it's range of T/S is really good. The control of the T/S was ergonomic enough, but the knobs were too much stiff for a "fast" use IMO (maybe it was that sample not as good as it should have been... but I couldn't try another), anyway the difference with the canon was more than evident in that. What I didn't like the most was the macro-contrast, I found the lens to be highly macro-contrasted.IMHO. Obviously this was just an unscientific test, more like a "personal feeling", but I found it difficult not to burn highlights with that "pushed" macro contrast, especially given the "limited" DR of digital sensor (but obviously this is not only a Nikon's issue) IMHO. Anyway, if I wanted a T/S kit now, as of this writings I would choose the Nikon more than the Canon's. Matter of fact, I didn't do that (and still scan 6x6 negative), and wait for another solution:rolleyes: I remember of great results from a PC-Super Angulon R... that was my reference (in my mind) when I tried the Nikkor (BTW, the nikkor as much more perspective control, and a wider angle 24 vs 28mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 3, 2008 Share #33 Posted October 3, 2008 Fair enough explanation, thank Mauritzio. Regarding the tilt/shift, could you not just use PS or other software to make your corrections. Oh, I guess with architechture you need to have focus over a wider range or shift your focus. Always something different isn't there! That's it, matter of fact I don't like "stertched" pictures with PS... I'm still dreaming of a cheap full frame sensor for the Blad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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