jaapv Posted September 1, 2008 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Although it seems a fool thing to do... Tele-Elmar 135-4.0 on OTZFO, Viso-R ring, 1.4x apoextender and 2.0x apoextender - makes about 400 mm, wide open,on the DMR @ ISO 800.. The results speak for the superior quality of this lens It takes it in its stride and throws a good image. Why? I am of to Africa in three weeks and am taking a mixed M8/DMR set. One consideration is redundancy - if a component fails, there will be no replacement.Another is weight and bulk - there are severe weight restrictions on light aircraft. So if the 105-280 R should come to grief, I still have a long lens on the DMR for the carrying of just two adapters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andit Posted September 3, 2008 Share #2 Posted September 3, 2008 Hi Jaap, It depends where in Africa you are going and what you are going to be photographing. If you are going to be doing landscape and general work, the M8 is hard to beat. If you're going to be doing wildlife and bird photography, the DMR with a long lens is going to come in real handy. Just to give you an idea, most photographers who do wildlife and birds use lenses 400 mm and up. The most popular lens for this at the moment is Canon's 100 - 400 mm IS lens. In terms of replacement components if something fails, if you're going to be in Johannesburg or Cape Town (South Africa), you should have no problem in getting replacements. The Leica distributor for Africa, Tudor Photographic, is based in Cape Town. In other parts of Africa you might have a bit of a problem. Here in Windhoek, they should be able to get you what you need in about 2 or 3 days - that is if Cape Town has stock. Anyway, I hope that you have a great trip and get some amazing images. I would not worry about component failure - people have travelled here many times with Leica equipment without any failures. Regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALUX Posted September 3, 2008 Share #3 Posted September 3, 2008 Well... I agree the quality seems to be ok, but the result is a very slow speed lens (f:11) which is difficult to focus accurately. Looking at your picture it seems to me that focus is not really on the frog. I would propose a completely different solution for your problem: Leave the heavy and bulky R9/DMR combo at home and get yourself a visoflex III plus a Telyt 6,8/400mm instead. The 400mm is very lightweight, allows fast focussing and can be disassembled for transportation. Since the 400mm is going to be used wide open, lack of automatic aperture is no issue. And you can shoot at ISO 400 and still have shorter shutter speed compared to your proposed combo. Best regards, Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted September 3, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 3, 2008 I am of to Africa in three weeks .............. Jaap, try some pano-making too; fun to do! See here: South Africa and Namibia Panorama's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted September 3, 2008 Well... I agree the quality seems to be ok, but the result is a very slow speed lens (f:11) which is difficult to focus accurately. Looking at your picture it seems to me that focus is not really on the frog.I would propose a completely different solution for your problem: Leave the heavy and bulky R9/DMR combo at home and get yourself a visoflex III plus a Telyt 6,8/400mm instead. The 400mm is very lightweight, allows fast focussing and can be disassembled for transportation. Since the 400mm is going to be used wide open, lack of automatic aperture is no issue. And you can shoot at ISO 400 and still have shorter shutter speed compared to your proposed combo. Best regards, Alex Yes- I know - I dragged the Noflexar 400 and Viso all through Zambia last year. I'll be taking the DMR- 105-280 and extenders now, as a "light"combo The TE is just for emergencies... You can see some Viso wildlife shots on my website I have a very balanced kit now- M8 with 15-21-35-90-135, DMR with 28-70 and 105-280 and 1.4x and 2x extenders and the "cross-over OTZFO with R adapter. Still dithering about a second M8 body and whether to take the Summicron 35 asph together with the Nokton 35/1.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted September 3, 2008 Hi Jaap, It depends where in Africa you are going and what you are going to be photographing. If you are going to be doing landscape and general work, the M8 is hard to beat. If you're going to be doing wildlife and bird photography, the DMR with a long lens is going to come in real handy. Just to give you an idea, most photographers who do wildlife and birds use lenses 400 mm and up. The most popular lens for this at the moment is Canon's 100 - 400 mm IS lens. In terms of replacement components if something fails, if you're going to be in Johannesburg or Cape Town (South Africa), you should have no problem in getting replacements. The Leica distributor for Africa, Tudor Photographic, is based in Cape Town. In other parts of Africa you might have a bit of a problem. Here in Windhoek, they should be able to get you what you need in about 2 or 3 days - that is if Cape Town has stock. Anyway, I hope that you have a great trip and get some amazing images. I would not worry about component failure - people have travelled here many times with Leica equipment without any failures. Regards Andreas South Africa is a long way from Western Zambia I fear - it will take me a day to get to Lusaka Airport... Don't worry Andreas- I've been at this game for twenty years now.. I hated the Canon 100-400 btw - got rid of it after one jaunt into the bush. The image quality is not worthy of the Canon L designation and it is a dust-pump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andit Posted September 3, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Jaap, From some of the images that I have seen from Western Zambia, it looks to be a spectacular place. Even though it's supposed to be winter here at the moment, were having wonderful temperatures (Lusaka 30 C, Windhoek 28 C) at the moment. Look forward to seeing some of your images. Regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted September 3, 2008 Hi Jaap, From some of the images that I have seen from Western Zambia, it looks to be a spectacular place. Even though it's supposed to be winter here at the moment, were having wonderful temperatures (Lusaka 30 C, Windhoek 28 C) at the moment. Look forward to seeing some of your images. Regards Andreas It is beautiful, Andreas. Dawn on the Busanga Plains... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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