bradreiman Posted September 14, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) iso 160 to 2500. interesting...menu set. im used to iso 50 or 100, will I be happy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Hi bradreiman, Take a look here iso 160?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest malland Posted September 14, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 14, 2006 "will I be happy?" Ask your psychiatrist. —Mitch/Paris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 14, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 14, 2006 Matter of habit IMO. I used to prefer 25/64/100 iso when i shot film and now i can't go slower than 200 iso with my APS digicams. No problem provided shutter speeds are fast enough to get shallow DoF in bright sunlight. 1/8000s is OK for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted September 14, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 14, 2006 Brad - I assume you are looking at the same screen I saw in the French blog, which had ISO at the top, next to 160. But I believe the other numbers below it correspond to the compression and other aspects. I may be wrong, and this could be wishful thinking, as, like you, I shoot at slower ISOs in film. On my D2, I hardly ever shoot above 100 ISO. But if your data is simply that shot of the LCD showing 160 next to the ISO, it may be that there is a smaller ISO, just not shown. Or so I pray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted September 14, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 14, 2006 Okay, I looked closer. He clearly is in an ISO menu and 160 is the top option. Still, let us pray there was a lower option, just not on the screen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 14, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 14, 2006 Which blog are you referring too ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted September 14, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pascal - if you go here -- MACANDPHOTO.COM - photo numérique sur Macintosh: Exclusif : preview du Leica M8 ! -- you can see menus, including an ISO menu that, alas, begins with ISO 160. JB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 14, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 14, 2006 From other menus, it looks like the top or bottom line of the red frame is hidden if there are more menu options available in that direction. For the ISO setting, the whole frame is visible so it looks like there are 5 ISO settings only, from 160 to 2500. For comparison, the R-D1 has 4 settings, 200, 400, 800, 1600. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 14, 2006 Share #9 Posted September 14, 2006 Of course, why not? Isn't Portra 160 rated ISO 160? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 14, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 14, 2006 Thanks Mark, I new the link but I missed that picture. This is quite strange indeed. Let's hope other more common ISO settings are available too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 14, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 14, 2006 OFFICIAL FROM LEICA: ISOs - 160 - 320 - 640 - 1250 - 2500 Digital ISOs are pretty much hard-wired into the sensor. The low end (which is the "natural" ISO) is determined by how much charge the charge-coupled-device (CCD) can hold without overflowing (blowing highlights unrecoverably). The high end is determined by how much the signal can be amplified with "tolerable" noise - "tolerable" being a question of taste, of course. Canon has a "low ISO pull" setting on some cameras to get down to ISO 50 - it is god-awful (pure cyan skies with blown clouds) compared to the normal low end of 100. Just because Kodak picked ASA (now ISO) 400 for Tri-X does not make "even" ISOs the word of the Creator. Kodachrome 64, Plus-X/FP4 (125), Portra 160, Tri-X Pro (320), GAF High-Speed slide film (500), Royal-X Pan (1250) - nothing magic about "100-200-400-800..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 14, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 14, 2006 Sure Andy but I'm simply used to 400 ISO and being able to set it on every camera gives me some confort. Imagine I'm working with a DMR and a M8: if I work in manual mode, I'll have to set a different speed on each of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted September 14, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 14, 2006 OFFICIAL FROM LEICA: ISOs - 160 - 320 - 640 - 1250 - 2500 Just because Kodak picked ASA (now ISO) 400 for Tri-X does not make "even" ISOs the word of the Creator. ..." Professional Tri-X is rated at ISO 320........of course, it is only available in 120 & 220 rolls and sold only to certified Pros...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickEgg Posted September 14, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2006 I sure hope we see sample images soon...I am very pleased with these announcements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted September 15, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 15, 2006 Sure Andy but I'm simply used to 400 ISO and being able to set it on every camera gives me some confort. Imagine I'm working with a DMR and a M8: if I work in manual mode, I'll have to set a different speed on each of them. Me too Pascal. It is like having to choose apertures like f3.4, 6.3, etc. Doable, but not so intuitive. I think most of the Leica crowd has been around since the hand held meter days...Maybe from Leica’s perspective, it will be difficult for anyone to make unfavorable comparisons with other cameras? With the 1Ds2 I can access a variety of ISOs, 100, 125, 160, 200, 250, 320, 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 3200 and I like that. I have never used 125, 160, 250 or 320. However, I think I will much prefer the size and weight of the M8, and I am really looking forward to using the APO 75 and messing around with the Noctilux (despite the 0.68 viewfinder - I am in LTC's camp on this one). Also a couple of people have said C1 works with the M8. I hope that is correct too. Obviously there is no way to completely please everyone - except to have a huge supply of these thngs ready to ship. I wonder when we will see MTFs for the new 28? It is alluringly tiny..... How does it’s size and weight compare to the 28 Summicron? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted September 15, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 15, 2006 Sure Andy but I'm simply used to 400 ISO and being able to set it on every camera gives me some confort. Imagine I'm working with a DMR and a M8: if I work in manual mode, I'll have to set a different speed on each of them. The difference between 320 ISO and 400 Iso is less than 1/3 of a stop. Y'all never notice Rex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 15, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 15, 2006 Yes, I figured that and using 400 instead 320 will also avoid burning the highlights. I can live with that, clearly, not a big deal. Just an unexpected change of habits on a body designed precisely to avoid this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted September 15, 2006 Share #18 Posted September 15, 2006 The difference between 320 ISO and 400 Iso is less than 1/3 of a stop. Y'all never notice Rex Actually I will. I use +/- 1/3 stop correction quite frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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