earleygallery Posted February 24, 2010 Share #661 Posted February 24, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm glad the other conversation has been moved - it started off as being on topic but was heading one way due to a few people trolling. Re. above, again I suspect lack of training. Because it is now an offence to gather intellingence on police officers - amongst others - if such information is to be used for purposes of terrorism, the average plod just takes it as read that you can't photograph them. The article doesn't make it clear if the police deleted the images or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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delander † Posted February 24, 2010 Share #662 Posted February 24, 2010 The police dont care if you make an official complaint, whatever the outcome the policeman involved wont lose his job - even though he may have broken the law - which is what needs to happen if the man on the beat is to take any notice of the guidance they are supposed to be taking on board. Another problem is that people read this in the papers and start to believe that street photography in unlawful. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted February 24, 2010 Share #663 Posted February 24, 2010 Even more nonsense - Mall security guard accuses shopper of being a paedophile for photographing his own son Boing Boing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted February 25, 2010 Share #664 Posted February 25, 2010 This from today's Telegraph: Random stop and search plumets after political outcry - Telegraph And yet, on another page, they report the case of an ex-RAF man who was taking photos of police vans at a crime scene when he was stopped, searched, told to delete his snaps and instructed to report to the police station. A "spokesman" for Thames Valley Police said that if he was not happy, he should submit an official complaint. I wonder if it is not time for someone like the NUJ to take out a civil case against the officers concerned and their Chief Constable next time a NUJ member gets the treatment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted February 27, 2010 Share #665 Posted February 27, 2010 Well, who has had such experiences? I have. As part of a street shooting course (when I was a student) I went with one of my class members - a certified psychiatrist by the way - to shoot on the Grote Markt in Groningen, NL. I took pictures of a parking-enforcement officer. He held me and requested my film (the roll from my M2), what I objected to. So he detained us and had us arrested. Both of us were held in custody (in a cell) for more than 4 hours. Then the Chief Inspector came to say, ' Please forget this, but can you say you are sorry, please? These civilian guards, you know, well, they don't have a full training and are sometimes quickly turned on.' What I learned is: a Leica camera obviously scares their wits! It might be the way we focus and "frame" the subject. Be more covert next time. alberti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 28, 2010 Share #666 Posted February 28, 2010 And yet again.....You can’t take a pic of your own son... you might be a paedo | The Sun |News Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted February 28, 2010 Share #667 Posted February 28, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) And yet again.....You can’t take a pic of your own son... you might be a paedo | The Sun |News It was also on National TV Sky News two nights ago with the story illustrated by the picture of Ben on the train. I only caught the last few seconds of the broadcast so don't know what was said. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 10, 2010 Share #668 Posted March 10, 2010 New government guidance see over on DPReview. Looking on the bright side we might be getting somewhere at last. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 10, 2010 Share #669 Posted March 10, 2010 I hope it's not another false dawn. Policing and Crime Minister David Hanson MP said: ... "I welcomed the opportunity to reassure all those concerned with this issue that we have no intention of Section 44 or Section 58A being used to stop ordinary people taking photos or to curtail legitimate journalistic activity." Perhaps not, but it's happening. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 10, 2010 Share #670 Posted March 10, 2010 Indeed Pete. They may 'have no intention' but that obviously doesn't prevent it from happening. I'm sure the government had no intention of wrecking the economy, I'm sure there was no intention of letting MP's fiddle their expense claims........ Photographers are being stopped, questioned, arrested. What is he actually going to do about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted March 11, 2010 Share #671 Posted March 11, 2010 You have to know the meanings of these words: "We have no plans to do P" => "We intend to do P, but haven't actually got a file labelled Plan for P." "We have no intention that Q" => "Q is/was a foreseeable consequence of our actions and we don't care." "We have given our soldiers everything they have requested" => "We deny our soldiers all sorts of things until the situation gets so bad it qualifies as an Urgent Operational Requirement. We have not yet formally refused one of these, although we may take years to place an order, let alone get the equipment into service." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted March 18, 2010 Share #672 Posted March 18, 2010 This does not make good reading: No police officer disciplined over G20 protests, says report | UK news | guardian.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 18, 2010 Share #673 Posted March 18, 2010 I agree, Pete, very disquieting; the police appear to have lost the plot entirely. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 19, 2010 Share #674 Posted March 19, 2010 This is a political thread and must be banned now!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 19, 2010 Share #675 Posted March 19, 2010 This is a political thread and must be banned now!!!! Please point me to the rule and I will comply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted March 24, 2010 Share #676 Posted March 24, 2010 This is a political thread and must be banned now!!!! Am I alowed to take photos of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share #677 Posted March 28, 2010 BBC News - Call for child photo rule rethink Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 30, 2010 Share #678 Posted March 30, 2010 The more I think about these "rules" the more the word gobsmacked comes to mind...What on earth would a peadophile ( not my favorite person...) want with a photograph of an anonymous child in the street, when all he has to do is walk into the shopping mall and look around him to see the real thing? It reminds me of those cultures where taking a photograph is forbidden because it will steal a person's soul. How a rational person can think these kind of restrictions will help create a safer society is quite beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 20, 2010 Share #679 Posted April 20, 2010 Well done Mark Thomas! Comedian Mark Thomas wins £1,200 over police search | UK news | The Guardian Get those claims in now guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted April 21, 2010 Share #680 Posted April 21, 2010 Unbelievable. im_'king_ho any Plod who presented those words in court as evidence should be fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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